[ANN] Falcon Burst Pool

[gpedro]

@EStel Your historical rewards are based on 50 blocks history of DLs you sent... If your DLs get better you will earn more in the historical reward, if not you will get lower historical rewards...

[falconCoin]

@rds we will need to wait till @haitch can look at it sorry.

as far as blocks hit you can check out @zack 's sweet site

http://blocks.burstxd.com/search.php?s=falcon

[rds]

@falconCoin,

I realize this pool is cloned from another, functional pool, but I question if something was changed to bias this pool. I'm just brainstorming, but 6 blocks in over a week seems too low. I realize @haitch implemented this for you and believe me I have the utmost respect for him and his expertise. He has given me tons of knowledge about Burst and computers, networks, virtual machines, etc. That being said things can happen.

So your miner calculates a target then takes the base target and scales it to generate a DL. If the base target is misreported to the miner then your DL will be erroneously higher or lower than it should be. In the diagram below, the base target is shown in the miner boundary. In solo mining I can see that as your miner gets the base from the wallet. In pool mining, I believe the pool reports the base to the miner. On the surface it appears correct as I've compared base targets as reported by the miner page from this pool and other pools for the same block, they are all the same value. I'm not knowledgable enough to sniff this out but I'm asking is there any way a typo or mistake in a config file for the pool can cause the miner to display the correct base target for a block but the pool of the miner reports a DL that is scaled to be a longer than actual? I hope I made myself clear.


Edit, the diagram I pasted in didn't load, here is the link to it, halfway down the page:

https://web.burst-team.us:449/index.php/about/

[EStel]

@gpedro Thanks :)

[vmantilla]

I'm in burst-team.us/, and we've only hit 1 block today (as of 4:00 pm, Texas Standard Time). For a grand total of 1 Burstcoin for me. LOL <sob>.

Good luck to all!

[PingOfd3ath]

@rds your 250tb is the main power behind this pool. also i looked, this pool only has 18 people currently mining on it, and if you are 3 of those that means only 15 people, a majority of the pool is below 10tb so it will be VERY difficult to find blocks. my pool has 4 petabytes on it and we dont win more than one block an hour, your this pool has maybe 300-350tb, and a majority of the other miners are not even mining so this means you have about the same luck getting a block as you would solo mining. though yes i would say 6 blocks in a week is low even for 300tb. i took the liberty of looking at the pool wallet and it appears to match up good with shares and such, this would be different if the "creator" didnt correctly make the pool. as the pool doesnt win the block the user wins the block, so if the user finds a block and the pool isnt set up correctly then the pool will keep the reward and not pay out OR will attempt to payout too much. this doesnt look like it's the problem but rather lack of active miners.

note, just looked back at the pool after writing all this up and 5 people have booted up their miners. if you want i can take the time to calculate how much mining power the pool has at this moment, but its not the full capacity, only 1/2 the miners are currently active

[gpedro]

@PingOfd3ath What you mean by the miners are not active? They have reward pointed but not mining or what?

[PingOfd3ath]

@gpedro exactly, reward pointed but miners offline. which i never understood why people do that but some do.

[gpedro]

@PingOfd3ath Hmm that's odd.. I understand this happening sometimes in pools with low min DLs but not with high ones like this pool...

[rds]

@PingOfd3ath said in [ANN] Falcon Burst Pool:

@rds your 250tb is the main power behind this pool. also i looked, this pool only has 18 people currently mining on it, and if you are 3 of those that means only 15 people, a majority of the pool is below 10tb so it will be VERY difficult to find blocks. my pool has 4 petabytes on it and we dont win more than one block an hour, your this pool has maybe 300-350tb, and a majority of the other miners are not even mining so this means you have about the same luck getting a block as you would solo mining. though yes i would say 6 blocks in a week is low even for 300tb. i took the liberty of looking at the pool wallet and it appears to match up good with shares and such, this would be different if the "creator" didnt correctly make the pool. as the pool doesnt win the block the user wins the block, so if the user finds a block and the pool isnt set up correctly then the pool will keep the reward and not pay out OR will attempt to payout too much. this doesnt look like it's the problem but rather lack of active miners.

note, just looked back at the pool after writing all this up and 5 people have booted up their miners. if you want i can take the time to calculate how much mining power the pool has at this moment, but its not the full capacity, only 1/2 the miners are currently active

Hi, I based my assessment of the total pool power by my historic share being 40%, so 2.5 x 250 = 600, rough estimate on a dynamic variable. Regardless unless the net diff as reported is way off, this pool even with just me should be averaging 2 blocks a day. I will hang for 2 more days to let the averages work out.

[haitch]

@rds I haven't watched every round on the pool, but on several spot checks I've never seen any blocks that the pool should have won, but didnt. Add to that the pool has won blocks, so is communicating with the wallet properly. When I set up the ccminer pool there was a missed char in the passphrase, so the wallet refused the DLs. That is not the case here.

I would have expected the pool to have won more blocks, but with the huge swings in difficulty we've been seeing, some abberations don't surprise me. As someone said earlier, look at performance over a longer period.

[rds]

@haitch , I agree, this is not like the ccminer, where low DLs were beat by other higher ones. What caught my eye is there never seem to be many low DLs periods. I rarely see a DL under an hour. I thought maybe the submitted DLs were being skewed higher, but I don't have a clue how that would happen. Just an observation. As I said earlier, I will wait for a few more days.

[haitch]

@rds My Pennywise's 150 TB goes many rounds without finding a sub 60 minute deadlines on the majority of rounds. Smaller miners and even twice as large liners will have the same problem. With these difficulty swings, I've checked about 7 pools, and often only one of them will have a DL under 1 hour.

[rds]

@haitch , you are probably right about the difficulty. I really think the diff is way higher than reported. How does the network determine difficulty anyway?

[haitch]

@rds I'm not 100% certain, but I believe it's based on the winning DL off the last X blocks. A run of quick blocks makes the estimate go higher, slower blocks bring it back down.

One of the wallet devs would be able to give you more accurate explanation. @daWaIlet ?

[falconCoin]

@haitch thx foe the explanations, im getting a lot of question above my pay grade of tortillas!

[haitch]

@falconCoin ask and I'll do my best to answer .....

[darindarin]

i have been watching closely..
at the time of writing this there are 36 miners in the pool although the page says 43 ( i notice this to always be off on every pool why? but not important)
several of the bottom tier miners are active as i set them up and am teamviewing them and know they are mining and receiving deadlines..
i am pretty sure when you shut your miner off and stop producing deadlines it takes some time to dissapear as you are still on your 50 block average. to me every miner on this pool looks active i do not see big miners on the bottom and dropping indicating they stopped mining.. the bottom guys are the smallest guys in the pool.. seems about right. everyone looks to be mining.

i do however think things are a little weird for a while i was the only one who ever hit a block until last night. a 2tb miner hit a 4 minute deadline and managed 830 burst. very happy for that.. but i would think Gustave and Babylicious deadlines would be well under an hour on most blocks... they havent broke an hour in the entire netwoork history column in the middle.. that concerns me @haitch

if this is just bad luck we are over due for some reaaaaaallly good luck :) haha crossing fingers

EDIT babylicious hit 22 minutes one time in the last 40 blocks. or however many in middle collumn

[haitch]

@darindarin The difference is between registered miners and active miners who are getting valid DLs.

Even with 250 TB you're not going to get sub 60 minutes every round. Take a look at highroller.burst-team.us , that's my 60 minute accepted DL pool, Pennywise's is a 150 TB miner, look at how any rounds it doesn't find a DL.

[darindarin]

@haitch not talkign about every round talking about 50 rounds.