Ninja pool beta up and running - come test with us!



  • @IceBurst said in Ninja pool beta up and running - come test with us!:

    @rds said in Ninja pool beta up and running - come test with us!:

    @crowetic,

    It looks like the pool thinks Gustavo just won a block but recent blocks show his best DL was 3 days. Pool bug?

    Additionally, the link to http://explorer.burstnation.com/ for looking up blocks and miners etc. is dead, does not work.

    Not sure where your looking but it shows his deadline was 3 hours. Shows he did not win any blocks.

    ![0_1496341684846_597ef14d-3bef-4e81-9f4e-edd99520423c-image.png](Uploading 100%)

    -IceBurst

    I'm looking at a queued payment of 1192.49 which is about what I would expect the block winner to receive. Additionally there are sequential lower deferred payments to each miner. There were no deferreds an hour ago as the pool paid out all deferreds about 12 hours ago and no blocks were won since the only one yesterday.

    There's only 240B n the pool account.



  • The pool has time to figure out if it should pay out or not, give it 20 blocks to see what it decides to do.

    -IceBurst



  • @IceBurst , I hear you, but isn't that when the pool thinks it won a block, sets up payments, then looks back to see if it really did win, then it pays. Here, there is no indication the pool thought it won. Like you and I both said, the shortest DL was 3 hrs, not even close to a win. So, that being said, I'm just pointing this out to @crowetic as this is a new version of code, it is in beta testing mode, and I'm one of the miners on the pool and I noticed what appeared to be an anomaly.



  • @rds Thanks sir, we'll keep an eye on it



  • @IceBurst , @crowetic,

    Why is the pool paying the fee account 3400B over the last two days. It's only hit 2 or maybe 3 blocks altogether?



  • @rds we personally put an additional 4K burst in to watch it, the program is designed to "sweep" unaccounted for incoming into the fee wallet.

    -IceBurst



  • @IceBurst , yes, I saw the 4k in, again just letting you know.



  • @IceBurst , @crowetic,

    Apart from the obvious cosmetic differences can you please describe what the differences are from the old ninja behind the scenes?

    Is this just a new front end to the old code or has it been worked up from scratch, if so is it a more robust / improved program and if so in what ways?

    Also can you please describe the algorithm used for the historic share. I know it used to be based in some way on the previous 50 Block share, but would be good to know the detail of how this is calculated?

    Thanks

    Rich



  • @RichBC said in Ninja pool beta up and running - come test with us!:

    @IceBurst , @crowetic,

    Apart from the obvious cosmetic differences can you please describe what the differences are from the old ninja behind the scenes?

    Is this just a new front end to the old code or has it been worked up from scratch, if so is it a more robust / improved program and if so in what ways?

    Also can you please describe the algorithm used for the historic share. I know it used to be based in some way on the previous 50 Block share, but would be good to know the detail of how this is calculated?

    Thanks

    Rich

    If you want to take a look at a snapshot of the sourced. Focus has released a copy of it on BN but I would hold off on actually using it for now as there ares still some bugs to we worked out.



  • @manfromafar Yes I had seen that, but was not wanting to have to go through the code, and was hoping that someone who has been involved in the development could give us the low down on the changes and improvements? To be brutally honest in terms of the cosmetics I preferred the old style one screen shows all approach.

    Rich



  • @RichBC

    So the specifics on block payouts, percentages, payout delays, percentages for current round are all customizable in a config file. In addition to just the "pretty" new interface there is a substantial rework on the back end to include even the service that provide the pages (httpd service). So some of the cool things this pool does is:

    • Asks multiple wallets for current block height to figure out who is forked who is not and what it should be using.
    • Has the ability to submit the active best deadline to multiple wallets, the old system submitted every deadline (less efficient).
    • The old Ninja ran on FreeBSD, the new one is CentOS 7 Secure Linux
    • The back end DB was upgraded from mySQL to MariaDB
    • While the primary port for submissions of nonces is on 8124 it can also accept submissions on port 80 to accommodate the mobile miner and proxy problems
    • Extensive logging has been added to the back end to trouble shoot

    There's a ton of changes as you can imagine. I am not the primary coder on this project but I am assisting with some trouble shooting and Unix configs. I'll see if I can get a more comprehensive list put together. I'm glad your getting your Dev news from the Devs and not someone that pretends to be one.

    -IceBurst



  • @IceBurst Thanks for the quick overview, much appreciated, sounds like there are some valuable changes and if widely deployed it would be a major improvement to the whole Mining network.

    If there is someone who can give a bit more detail that would be great and I am sure there are a lot of people like me that will not fully understand it but will be reassured by the sharing of the information.

    Great that the config is highly configurable but would be good both for Miners and Pool Operators if these parameters could be fully described and that any Admins running a Pool were open about the settings they are using?

    Rich



  • @IceBurst , @crowetic , Is the code available for anyone who wants to try and implement it?



  • @RichBC said in Ninja pool beta up and running - come test with us!:

    Great that the config is highly configurable but would be good both for Miners and Pool Operators if these parameters could be fully described and that any Admins running a Pool were open about the settings they are using?

    Rich

    Agree, more transparency is a good thing. For instance, later on in the mining phase, block transaction fees are going to be more important than block reward. I mentioned to @crowetic that it would be nice if the miners on this pool get these fees. He agreed, but I don't think it has been changed yet.



  • sounds good , i'll give it a try



  • @crowetic

    We just hit 2 blocks, now you have a chance to check logs with blocks winnings and payouts and stuff

    Good to see payouts buffering raised to 500 burst / 300 blocks. No need to pay all those fees.



  • @crowetic
    I'm trying to increase my TB, but i think we need more ppl in the pool to hit blocks more often. I'll probably stall around 132TB in a day or so, having run out of stuff to plot. It should be good for about 2 blocks a day, but it's more fun if we could get like 4 or 5.

    Other than that it seems like smooth sailing, the user experience so far is that stuff is working like it should.

    I have 4 pcs running a miner with various plots, i hope it is not a problem that one pc might send a deadline that is lower than something one of the other pcs might have sent. Also hope there is no penalty for that, as long as it's just bc i'm running from several pcs.



  • @pinballdude_bu, nice meeting you here. I moved over to the Ninja pool a day ago and I agree with your assessment: we need to get more people on-board. Only 14 active miners as I write this. I hit a block today and the payout went just fine, but things are happening too slowly to really test the site. I wish there were at least 50-75 miners right now. More would be awesome. I'm only using one PC at the moment, so the 72TB reported is what I actually have. Plotting another 16TB right now. Should have around 85-90TB by the end of the week. I'll probably buy one or two more drives after these so I can crack the 100TB level in June.



  • I'm going to put ninja on its normal domain and officially re-launch it very soon. Hopefully that will re-attract some miners.

    I'm pretty upset that this whole theft happened in the first place, but ninja will come out stronger from it.

    I've suggested a few more changes today, which include modifying the explorer the links post to, and changing the displaying of the network difficulty.

    More on the way.



  • @crowetic, yeah, I was just about to post that the explorer link doesn't work and is, well, odd, considering where it points. Other than some graphics oddities now and then the site does seem to be working well. And I like the new layout.

    It looks like people are slowly coming on board too; we are up to 23 this morning. That's two or three times where it was a few days ago. I'm guessing somewhere about 50 to 75 miners and the block wins will start to look more normal for a pool. At that point I'm sure people will pile on.


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