Crowetic the Leader!



  • So, Crowetic the great, at least some people think of him as that.
    For everyone to understand, we need to get some time back, before Burst Nation and before BurstCasino.com

    When I first joined Burst, it was love at first sight; I loved the idea of a coin that can be mined with Hard Drives, the AE, and the potential the coin had.

    A few weeks passed, and I decided that a project I did years ago for BTC, could fit well with the coin, and with it bring the coin to a higher value (Burst was at 48 satoshis when I joined). I decided to create a project called Burst Games (the first ever Burst gambling site), everyone was excited about the idea, I got help from members like Haitch, daWallet and Luxe.

    One time I ask daWallet a question and he told me that it was best to ask someone called Crowetic, by that time I didn't know him. I joined his AltTech site and asked him the question; he completely ignored me, I found what I was looking elsewhere.

    After Burst Games is released and it is an instant hit, everyone in burst was playing the dice game, trying their luck with the fortune roulette and talking about the site over burst-team, Crowetic contact me and tell me if I want to join the dev team for BURST, I instantly said yes and I was happy to help the coin grow. To my surprise that Crowetic didn't care at all of my potential for Burst, but for another coin called Qora, a coin that has no future (at least for now) because it's all broken, the API isn't all implemented and there's A LOT to do in there. I get angry when people say that Crowetic care and works for Burst, because before Qora was delisted from Poloniex, all I heard him talk about is Qora here and Qora there, enough blabla on this as it's not the point.

    About after a month Crowetic contact me and tell me that he want's me to have Burst Games with him, make him part of the project, I told him I wasn't sure what he could apport to the project and that I was going to think about it, in other words, NO.

    Burst Games was fine, but it was built in a few weeks and it was laggy, I didn't like my final result so I decided to completely rebuild the project from scratch. A few days after Burst Casino was released, Crowetic contact me again and tell me, You know I can build a casino myself, but I prefer to join yours that is already well built. To me, this sounds: "Or you are with me or against me", and he has the resources.

    Anyway, so I tell him ok give me some days and I will again think about it and I accepted. We came with a final result that had private investors, they wanted to remain anonymous (Crowetic and Adam), and we decided (not Crowetic's idea, MikeMike's idea) that yes, it was a good idea to give some of the revenue for the Burst devs (12.5%).

    I ask Crowetic, and what about the people that didn’t send the shares in time (Burst Games to Burst Casino) and he tells me, those that didn’t send it before, will never do. I agree and sent the shares to the private investors (the total left on BurstCasino shares). After a few months, some players come back and ask for the swap, I tell them it’s too late and Crowetic as a “good” samaritan send them some shares doing a minimum swap for them (at least he did that…).

    Right now, those funds are in hostage, Crowetic ignored my request to send me the passphrase or the shares, to be used in Burst development (Crowetic? An Idea to help Burst? HAAAAA, it was MikeMike’s idea). http://burstcoin.biz/address/2800474269662753628

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    A few minutes ago, he disabled the casino wallet (he was the server hoster for the casino wallet) leaving people without being able to withdraw nor deposit. I already changed to another wallet server and the casino wallet service is back up and running.

    And right after that, Crowetic decided to drop all the shares he owned (thanks to this deal, he got them incredibly cheap, before anyone in the public forum could take some) and sold them all at once bringing the casino shares at almost no value. The casino shares are currently at 8.5 while they were at 19.5

    http://burstcoin.biz/address/10564021873123313640

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    I didn’t say anything at first because I didn’t want to hurt Crowetic’s name, but the person that made us go into Bankruptcy in the first place is Crowetic. He told me that 1 confirmation was enough for a Burst transaction to be valid, which isn’t true, 10 is the minimum recommended.

    Last month we all noticed the gigantic fuckup that the blockchain had, that caused to some players that were deposited at that time, to get their burst back to their wallets, while it was already credited on the site, at the end the user ended up getting FREE burst because of a blockchain fuckup. There is no way to know which player got which amount and validate it because the blockchain rolled back and the transactions don’t exist anymore.

    I’m not a child, and even if I’m younger than Crowetic, I take responsibility for trusting a member that doesn’t know anything about programming nor the Burst API, it’s me that trusted his words, even after knowing that the API clearly state the minimum recommended is 10. That’s why, and out of the little respect I had for Crowetic, that I decided to come with another way to show the bankruptcy we had.

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    Here are the screenshots I took, in case this person try to change or alter anything as he has been saying that everything is a bunch of lies, while only us behind, knew the real person he is.

    So, Crowetic is trying to destroy, the one and only web service that people can spend their burst in, and with that hurting the asset holders that were already hurt in the first place! Actions from a man that say only having good intentions for Burst.

    And BTW Crowetic, daWallet knew all along that you were forcing me to take a deal that I wasn’t sure it was a good idea for the casino, so someone knows that what I’m saying is true besides Burst Nation cult as you like to call it now.

    Crowetic left Burst Nation not because he was forced to do anything, he left Burst Nation because he isn't seen by anyone as the Burst Leader or Burst God he wants to think he is.

    Haitch, daWallet, Luxe, Adam, Focus and Devs these are the main people that work hard for Burst, not Crowetic.

    And no, I'm not comming after you and I don't care about you, this is what happened between us and what the community always deserved to know.


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    I haven't read it but I think it is better in Member Talk or Off Topic than "Announcements". Moved



  • OMFG, This is the story of the year.... :o



  • literally EVERYTHING said here is untrue.

    Be warned - Zeus lives nearby to Adam, so Adam has successfully owned him IRL. He's deathly afraid to 'go against' Adam in any way. He will make up anything possible (as you can see here, I mean blaming me for the bankruptsy? That's laughable especially when I LOST a total of 650k BURST playing there with stupid bets!)

    What REALLY caused the bankruptsy, is corruption, a stupid asset structure, and the rains that f'd up the network, but those only caused a VERY small amount of damage compared to the corruption and stupid asset structure where the bankroll was used to do payouts, tying perfectly into the corruption once Adam came in.

    Zeus - My only apology stems from the same location as my other apology... The fact that I suggested Adam work with BURST, and then suggested that he promo BURST casino. For THAT I'm sorry. I'm sorry too that you're now under control of Adam. I hope one day you can rectify that situation.

    As far as the dev fund, there's no way in hell I'm giving control over a fund that was MY IDEA to start, and that focus has already taken over a million coins from, and PAID THE DEVS BARELY 300K. I am now to give the fund back to you/him so that you can hold the REST of the funds hostage? I don't think so.

    The devs WILL BE PAID, and how do we know that all of a sudden you guys won't stop paying the rest of the devs like you did with @IceBurst ?

    Yea... Not happening man. This is the reason I didn't answer you, and I figured you'd get the hint, but I'm sure you were coerced into coming here to make this post, and once again I'm sorry that you're in that position, but there will be NO change in the control of the dev fund that was my urging that made it happen. As we all know there's no way in hell that Adam would have agreed to giving away part of his share had I not been there to keep saying it over and over that a good use would be to start a dev fund.



  • @crowetic I knew you would say that, but as I told in my thread, daWallet was aware of this, thank god I talked with him about it!!!

    And I personally will stop paying that devs funds, you only created the wallet, because I asked you to so people will know the burst is safe. MikeMike and I did the entire calculations, and you know what? We typed it!

    Crowetic always wanted to only talk in private, this was something good because that removes many proofs, but I still have proof besides the ones I posted.

    Keep saying I'm lying :)

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    Need more @crowetic ? I'm not under Adam's Control, the only time I left this forum was after BN existed, and the only reason was because of all the attacks people were sending each other, I even considered leaving Burst in it's totality by that time.

    Now Burst Nation is also full of insults, I don't have a Burst home anymore because I don't feel happy in here, nor there with all these attacks.

    I released my full story and you won't be able to turn the eyes elsewhere, face the truth. This is MY personal life with you. Everything I'm saying is the truth and you can keep lying if you want to, it won't change the facts.

    Yes, some things I don't have proof, like how Crowetic told me to talk to the public about this and saying that or they accept it or they leave and he can buy more shares for almost nothing. But those I didn't published it in the main thread, this and other details are left over because I don't have a way to prove them, you always wanted to talk only on your Mumble channel.



  • haha, those prove nothing other than the fact that MikeMike used to do a whole lot of relaying information for me when I used to work closer with him. Try again.



  • this thread is boring.



  • @darindarin said in Crowetic the Leader!:

    this thread is boring.

    agreed.

    Zeus... tell focus to give back the coin he got from the sale of the FREE 402 that was given FOR DEVELOPMENT, as well as the coin that I sent from the account to him, and I'll give back the casino SHARES, but not the coin.

    As I said, when they threaten to not pay one dev, what makes me think they won't just stop paying all the devs. I can't allow this to happen.

    So no matter what you say, believe and know this... I WILL NOT BE GIVING YOU CONTROL OF THIS WALLET. Thank you.



  • I feel incredibly happy that at last, I could say the truth behind this story.
    I don't care about the shares, keep them, shareholders and other Burst members needed to know who you are.
    And besides, you are already out of my life ^_^



  • @Zeus said in Crowetic the Leader!:

    Now Burst Nation is also full of insults, I don't have a Burst home anymore because I don't feel happy in here, nor there with all these attacks.

    I'm sorry you feel that way. I'm not up to date with everything that is going on but I just wanted to say to hang in there. :)

    Your business seems to be going good overall but you are experiencing little growing pain. All new business experience this. So, please do not get discouraged by it.

    I hope everything gets resolved for you and all the parties involved.



  • I had a smelly feeling about this Adam guy, and it was some time ago:
    http://forums.burst-team.us/topic/4307/message-for-mr-adam-guerbuez-2

    I just couldn't understand why people are so naive...



  • I'm not sure how my post will be received by anyone, I'm going to hammer you both. Please take it like the adults we are.

    It appears crowetic provided information about confirmations that is listed against the best practices guide. This is true, with a network lockup a user has exactly the ability to do what Zeus lists; Post a deposit that is credited and returned to the user basically creating a double down in favor of the user. This of course goes directly against the Casino's bank roll and hurts the system. Always trust but verify.

    Details about Best practices for confirmations is here: https://nxtwiki.org/wiki/How-To:Handle_Deposits

    I respect the BurstCasino and I spent/spend time on there chatting and playing. I do own shares but I have not sold any as I believe it still has potential to be very profitable. I personally enjoy the new Keno game. But lets discuss the math that caused the bankruptcy I believe you are pointing the pinky finger at crow when the thumb should be in your own face for a defective financial system.

    The fact that the Casino Asset paid out directly against the ENTIRE bank roll and not only the profit section is why you flopped. Additionally in a code review your server seed was found to be static thus reducing the randomness and creating a cycle for players that could be defeated. To prove it I put in 2K burst a minuscule amount and rode it like a fat pig into the thousands creating a 300%+ profit margin. Either I'm the luckiest player alive in terms of percentages or I found a mathematical way to beat the system without attacking the server or programming, much like a professional card counter.

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    Knowing this I never shared my strategy publicly and intentionally played with small amounts as my goal wasn't to hurt the Casino but instead pass some time and chat with some people.

    I suggest you consider what really caused the casino to go bankrupt and then ask when it did go bankrupt and get reloaded via the SnakeEyes asset why didn't you re-infuse it personally with the millions you withdrew early on.

    As for asset dropping, were seeing it across the board. I'm only guessing but the fact that Adam has a heavy involvement in the Casino I would expect crow to distance himself.

    As for crow mentioning Qora I find that to be of little relevance as he has always has a large focus on Burst. It would be no different than saying I don't work on Burst because I'm busy watching reruns of Sienfeld late at night.

    As for others taking a piece of your pie, you allowed it. We're all grown ups here, if you want to tell someone "No", you do just that. They might not like it but that's the way this works.

    Lastly for control of Dev Funds this is where I get my interest peeked.Why do you need the password to the wallet? Do you have a Burst project that requires development? Do you have a Dev that needs to be paid for community work that was negotiated and involved crow? If any of these are true I ask you to post the answer, I'm sure work completed for community use would be paid by crow if it was negotiated. I know the same can not be said for other Dev funds.

    I'm sorry it's ending like this.

    Love me or Hate me. These are facts.

    -IceBurst



  • @socalguy said in Crowetic the Leader!:

    @Zeus said in Crowetic the Leader!:

    Now Burst Nation is also full of insults, I don't have a Burst home anymore because I don't feel happy in here, nor there with all these attacks.

    I'm sorry you feel that way. I'm not up to date with everything that is going on but I just wanted to say to hang in there. :)

    Your business seems to be going good overall but you are experiencing little growing pain. All new business experience this. So, please do not get discouraged by it.

    I hope everything gets resolved for you and all the parties involved.

    Don't worry socalguy ^_^ I'm not leaving, I talk everyday with the mods of the casino and we have many plans for it yet to come, I don't visit often the forums anymore but that doesn't mean I'm not here and I'm not trying to stay up to date.

    I will keep working on my ideas in my spare time, and all of my off-work ideas, involve Burst :D


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    @Zeus said in Crowetic the Leader!:

    I will keep working on my ideas in my spare time, and all of my off-work ideas, involve Burst :D

    Same for me :-)



  • @IceBurst said in Crowetic the Leader!:

    I'm not sure how my post will be received by anyone, I'm going to hammer you both. Please take it like the adults we are.

    It appears crowetic provided information about confirmations that is listed against the best practices guide. This is true, with a network lockup a user has exactly the ability to do what Zeus lists; Post a deposit that is credited and returned to the user basically creating a double down in favor of the user. This of course goes directly against the Casino's bank roll and hurts the system. Always trust but verify.

    Details about Best practices for confirmations is here: https://nxtwiki.org/wiki/How-To:Handle_Deposits

    I respect the BurstCasino and I spent/spend time on there chatting and playing. I do own shares but I have not sold any as I believe it still has potential to be very profitable. I personally enjoy the new Keno game. But lets discuss the math that caused the bankruptcy I believe you are pointing the pinky finger at crow when the thumb should be in your own face for a defective financial system.

    The fact that the Casino Asset paid out directly against the ENTIRE bank roll and not only the profit section is why you flopped. Additionally in a code review your server seed was found to be static thus reducing the randomness and creating a cycle for players that could be defeated. To prove it I put in 2K burst a minuscule amount and rode it like a fat pig into the thousands creating a 300%+ profit margin. Either I'm the luckiest player alive in terms of percentages or I found a mathematical way to beat the system without attacking the server or programming, much like a professional card counter.

    0_1495211999256_upload-29dba338-d766-45e7-b622-70efd755880e

    Knowing this I never shared my strategy publicly and intentionally played with small amounts as my goal wasn't to hurt the Casino but instead pass some time and chat with some people.

    I suggest you consider what really caused the casino to go bankrupt and then ask when it did go bankrupt and get reloaded via the SnakeEyes asset why didn't you re-infuse it personally with the millions you withdrew early on.

    As for asset dropping, were seeing it across the board. I'm only guessing but the fact that Adam has a heavy involvement in the Casino I would expect crow to distance himself.

    As for crow mentioning Qora I find that to be of little relevance as he has always has a large focus on Burst. It would be no different than saying I don't work on Burst because I'm busy watching reruns of Sienfeld late at night.

    As for others taking a piece of your pie, you allowed it. We're all grown ups here, if you want to tell someone "No", you do just that. They might not like it but that's the way this works.

    Lastly for control of Dev Funds this is where I get my interest peeked.Why do you need the password to the wallet? Do you have a Burst project that requires development? Do you have a Dev that needs to be paid for community work that was negotiated and involved crow? If any of these are true I ask you to post the answer, I'm sure work completed for community use would be paid by crow if it was negotiated. I know the same can not be said for other Dev funds.

    I'm sorry it's ending like this.

    Love me or Hate me. These are facts.

    -IceBurst

    Why would I hate you IceBurst? You are one the devs that make burst great. But know that from the casino shares you will NOT receive any burst on that address. That address was created by all of us, WE decided that this address will be held by Crowetic to pay do Burst devs WE think are worth, now Crowetic took the entire control over it, the casino will not help Crowetic pay for his ideas.

    And for the code, yes the server seed was only one until you changed your public seed, but the nonce was always different, take a look at bitsler.win and let me know what you see? Exactly the same behavior, it's impossible by only having a hashed version of the server seed and your client seed + nonce, to know what the next number will be. We (Lexicon and I) validated this and made sure this wasn't causing any issues, we changed it anyway to another algorithm more agresive, but as I say you can still validate this with bitsler.win, you will be able to see the exact same behavior we had.

    Once the player changed his client seed, the server seed generated a new seed and a hashed version, the nonce reset to 0. It's the same behavior as bitsler, because the algorithm used was the one they use.



  • @Zeus you are so full of shit and always was. Even If you say that sky is blue I prefer to double check it.
    I will spend some time to check everything that's public and I'm sure you are bsing as always. Also why do You post it here? It's dead forum, isn't it?



  • More Dirty Laundry? I thought BN was the place for that!



  • BOOORING!!!
    These daily dramas are getting ridiculous!



  • @Hyzi0 said in Crowetic the Leader!:

    @Zeus you are so full of shit and always was. Even If you say that sky is blue I prefer to double check it.
    I will spend some time to check everything that's public and I'm sure you are bsing as always. Also why do You post it here? It's dead forum, isn't it?

    I never attacked this forum. And please do, everything is in the blockchain, public for you and others to validate, also confirm the date the casino went into bankrupcy with the date of the blockchain issues, if a screenshot of a text between me and crow doesn't help you see the truth, probably that will. And if at the end that doesn't, it doesn't matter ^_^

    I posted it here because I though this is everyone's concern, it touches someone that is worshipped by the Burst community and this is a Burst forum. If it's not of your concern you can perhaps find more appropriate threads for your taste.

    @rnahlawi this has nothing to do with Burst Nation, this is the truth I know behind Crowetic. After he dumped all his shares from the casino and killed the server he provided for the casino without saying a word, while I (the only owner of the casino) had never done anything bad to Crow, I respected him even after all he did, it seems it was time to talk like he did recently too.



  • @Zeus I hear you man, I said that coz recently everyone behind Burst seems to have a hidden agenda for a personal gains. I had suspicions of my own and recent posts are telling me to leave the coin which I -like you- fall in Love from the first sight.
    Yes, Adam is a cheap bullshitter seeking a big "Hit 'n Run" opportunity and he's using his site to spread fabricated/manipulated information on "Celebrity-Bitch" bases. Developers were caught hiding dev-fees in codes and they got away with it, Assets were broken due to children playing with people's money and many shameful situations involves punch of thieves here and there, Casino was destroyed overnight, and now the game of who can expose/insult the other more and for what?? Who can get out with more money out of it!
    If I discovered Burst today, not a year ago, and read what's going on or the daily news bulletins exchanged between the 2 communities ... I would never invested a dime/minute in it!
    All that BS is just hurting Burst and its future .. if anyone cares! So, Take this to BN, I'm sure minions will love this scandal and crow can answer you there too.



  • Zeus, accept the fact that it was mismanagement / corruption that bankrupted the casino. A good manager would have realized the flaws and fixed them before it reached the point of bankruptcy. I guess it was more profitable for the management to let the casino crash and just issue a new asset. You screwed many investors with a big dildo wrapped with sand paper on it, tweaked the casino and re-issue the same casino asset under a new name asking for even more money (corrupt). If you were unable to manage less funds then, I doubt you have magically became competent over night to properly manage more funds now. I wonder If investors knew / know Adam is a shareholder/partner of casino / snake eyes and his asset success depends on milking the casino / snake eyes. That right there is a conflict of interest and corruption and my reason for staying away from those assets. Perfect name for your new asset though (snake eyes)!


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