Just experienced my first real censorship in crypto...

[rnahlawi]

@RichBC Its his usual cheap promotion. You see casino is down and he needs to keep selling his gambling assets to more minions.

[gpedro]

@haitch I don't worship Adam, actually he is the person i less respect in there and i wasn't banned so far but i never gave them reasons to ban me as far as i know...

When i see his attacks or his BS i just ignore because there is not really a thing i can do and if i post something against him i know it will be either deleted or I will be descredited so better to not say nothing, at least this is my opinion...

[haitch]

@gpedro I didn't call out you, or any other member. I was just stating how paranoid their policy is.

Almost any discussion is open here, but trigger subjects over there will get your post deleted and account banned. Look on the thread about who has been banned from BN. Would you ban any of them from here ?

If you think a post of mine or any other user is offensive, contact me directly/

[gpedro]

@RichBC said in Just experienced my first real censorship in crypto...:

I really don't see how you can take a set of honest positive statements from a set of Banned Members and use it in some way to either justify their Banning or rally the Troops?

I think the idea was just to promote his asset by saying that even the "worst people" are loving his asset, nothing else but like i said i think he just shot himself in the foot with this one...

[gpedro]

@haitch I didn't said you call me out lol
I was giving the example that there is still people over there that even if they don't like him, they were not banned (yet) because they didn't gave him the chance to do so...
Obviously i know all you are saying, because, as you know, i am active in both here and there and i have an eye that sees it all lol, and i was very close to post sometimes things that i knew it would result in my ban (even if they would not go against their ToS) but i even reach the point of closing the window and don't go over there for a couple of days so i don't see that post again in order to restrain myself from posting somethings...

If i had a forum i would not ban someone without being the will of the community or without being by some user had clearly scammed the community, and this forum is clearly the nearest of my concept of why people should be banned or not... Hell if there was someone saying please ban this guy without a really good reason, i would create a poll to know if that guy should be banned or not just because i think a forum is a place to be ultimately managed by the community and not by some person...

"If you think a post of mine or any other user is offensive, contact me directly" - that was what i have done so far with you or anyone i know and will continue to do until i get banned hahahahaha
I wasn't refering to what you said as a negative thing and i think you misinterpretated my reply because i wasn't defending them or anything, just pointing that there are people in there that are still not worshiping him and that were not banned because they just don't speak their thoughts against him in order to not get banned, just because i think BN has great people in there too and i want to be able to continue accessing it because i love Burst and am all for it...

Like what you saw with that thing about the pools, we would need people that are as neutral as possible and that are in both sides to make the connections and solve some issues, i am trying to be one of them even if the admins from both sides know that i will not make any cerimony to say what i think, in public or in private, if things reach a certain point like i did so far, as far as i know...

[RichBC]

@gpedro said in Just experienced my first real censorship in crypto...:

I don't worship Adam, actually he is the person i less respect in there and i wasn't banned so far but i never gave them reasons to ban me as far as i know...

I wish you luck, that was the line I was trying to tread. It's all too easy to slip up, and remember it's not just what you say over there but also what you say here, and for all I know what you are thinking of saying. :-)

Anyway enough idle chit chat, don't want to give the wrong impression to people looking for a Forum that is up and running. Back to deciding if now is the time to cash out on MTMG or if it has some more legs? @Gadrah see you there........

Rich

[Gadrah_]

@RichBC I suggest we go back to Who is Mr Whale and general Asset Trading Discussion Thread for this matter :)

[Dillion]

Site still down on my end too. Maybe they unplugged to see what happens with these rising prices. Plotting their exit.

Thanks for the screen shot Rich.

[gpedro]

@RichBC LOL are you saying that he will ban me just for what i think of him?
I don't but if he does and try to discredit me, it only gets their censorships to a whole new level...

I never attack them with anything, just stated my opinion as i stated some posts above, but if they ban and discredit me for that (what didn't happened so far) let's just say i will make sure everyone knows exactly why i was banned aswell as others not deserved bans...

I was civil everytime i spoke of someone and i think no one can really say the same from him!

He is the person i less respect and trust in there and i never hided that but i never disrespected him or someone else... That is part of the reason i never holded an asset managed by him, neither will until i am sure he is not in here for profit but for the community (and that is something that will most likely never happen, even if i am losing good trading opportunitys, i just don't care, i prefer to have a bird in my hand than 2 flying around xD)...

[Hyzi0]

@gpedro Man, I was banned and got all my posts removed for saying that his steam-verification registration for BN didn't cause pump in price;)
You can literaly be banned for anything so lets just stop wasting our time on them^^ He made my day with his post anyways so at least he was good for that ^^

[IncludeBeer]

@gpedro That's exactly how I got banned: violation of "Rule #5: Do not insult, degrade or post hateful posts about BURST Nation on any other sites you use, if you are found doing so, you will be banned instantly." Apparently my OP in this thread qualified.

Indeed it's blatant censorship, and Adam fully admitted so. Be very careful with any words with a negative connotation on them if you want to keep your account, it seems he has rather thin skin.

[haitch]

@gpedro I incredibly politely corrected some statements Adam made about me. Banned, post deleted - "such negativity .....:"

[IncludeBeer]

@keyd0s said in Just experienced my first real censorship in crypto...:

Is he really just censoring information to appease his 'people' that everyone actually thinks his asset's are great? they're not, the people investing in it are great. really burstnation with adam on top is moving more and more towards some kind of totalitarian rule.

Truly though, it's almost a cult-like following! I wish Crow would grow a pair and put Adam in his place. Just because he gambles well doesn't give him the right to disrupt an entire community in the way he's doing (and it really seems to be coming from Adam's side of the "Admin box", I've never had any issues talking with Crow or asking questions/making suggestions).

One of the main proponents of cryptocurrencies is their resistance to censorship. In my 4+ years in crypto, I've never been treated like I was at BN. I really hope others at BN notice what is being pulled there, and don't blindly follow the constant stream of promises of riches.

@AdamGuerbuez If you're truly so confident in the performance of your assets/gambling habits, why not let others voice their opinions or make criticisms (especially on an entirely separate site!!)?

[gpedro]

@IncludeBeer I did not insult, degraded or posted hatefull things about no one neither BurstNation. I just said my opinion... I challenge you to PM me one thing i said that brakes that or any other rule...

Saying that i don't trust him is not insult, degrade or post hatefull stuff... If i was trying to convince someone to not trust him, or call him or someone else nasty stuff, that would be a completely different story, but that didn't happened.

I didn't attacked anyone either, i just spoke how i feel about him and that don't brakes any rule, i just checked right now...

[gpedro]

@haitch said in Just experienced my first real censorship in crypto...:

@gpedro I incredibly politely corrected some statements Adam made about me. Banned, post deleted - "such negativity .....:"

Yeah that was a rule in the begining i guess, but it's not in the list anymore... I guess it was too censorship and someone made him realize he was becoming a dictactor...

Now what i just said in the above posts can potencially made them change the rules in the future to make people not to state their opinions if they are negative but my posts are already posted and if they change their rules, my posts are prior to it, if they ban me for that they will be shotting themselfs in the foot because they will be back to the completely totalitary system of "if it's negative is reason for ban", and that leads to the main questions, "Who decides if it's negative or not? Adam? So dictactor path, right?"...

I can understand if people talk negative shit about BurstNation it can lead to ban but Adam is not BurstNation, BurstNation is a community and i stated in previous posts how amazing is a lot of people over there... I just don't like or trust the guy, due to a lot of things and to thousands of decisions he made, but i don't even stated why exactly i don't like him because i would most likely cross that line i can't cross and then you all know what would happen, but if someone want to know those reasons feel free to PM me and i will explain them with pleasure...

I could say more but i don't want to continue this conversation, i'm getting tired of all this talk and will head to bed in a bit... If someone wants to continue it, feel free, i will reply tomorrow ;D

[IncludeBeer]

@gpedro Ya man, I'm completely with you! No, I don't think at all such things are degrading or hateful. We should all be able to voice opinions. Apparently though, my OP here was enough to violate a rule. :/

[haitch]

@gpedro I don't want a fight with them, or anyone that follows them.

My only comment is that they are untrustworthy *****. Crow and Focus were admins on this site, I gave Focus a 250,000 Burst donation for Burst4All to pay out as a bonus. Crows Busteam gets it revenue from 100% of my pool fees. Then overnight - I'm an asshole, my site sucks. My servers are pathetic, my 660,000 Burst investment in Burst4All is nullified because I was given some other shares, the shares I bought for US$1,500 will not be replaced with the new shares, then a stream of un-provable slurs. Focus seems to like me when I donate to his pool. But after stabbing me in the back and launching a new, totalitarian site , I'm now someone who should be hated by the whole community.

Enough is enough - I've not responded to any of Focus's or the other BN members, now I will

I want to keep my post PG-14, so I'm holding my tongue, but I'd treat any interaction or asset from them as highly radioactive.

As for Adams "asset" that is based on his gambling - the house always has an edge. Either Adam is going to flame out, or the Casino will go bankrupt. In either case , the asset" will stop paying.

End of Story.

[IncludeBeer]

@haitch said in Just experienced my first real censorship in crypto...:

As for Adams "asset" that is based on his gambling - the house always has an edge. Either Adam is going to flame out, or the Casino will go bankrupt. In either case , the asset" will stop paying.

Ya...after watching this video of him:

, I'm now waiting for a good time to sell off mtmgaming. I simply don't trust my Burst with him after doing more research. :(

[haitch]

@IncludeBeer a) I' won't watch any Adam videos
b) Either the gambler loses (destroying the asset), or the casino loses and declares bankruptcy- either way, the revenue stream stops. , and investors get even more screwed than they did with the share replacement

Who the hell thought investing in the bankroll of a gambler was a sane idea ?

[IncludeBeer]

@haitch lol well...the Burst Casino did indeed go bankrupt once already!