Why haitch verified Kids for issuing assets? or its any misunderstanding going on!!
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@Lexicon said in Why haitch verified Kids for issuing assets? or its any misunderstanding going on!!:
@dvndr007 do you or anyone else in this thread have a problem with anything ive posted? or share the same opinion. id like to know. cause right now it feels like im being targeted simply for being affiliated with burstnation. i only came here to post about my asset div's and place my opinion on this. i wasnt expecting this.
sorry lex, couldn't help myself..it had to be done
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@Zeus
When I put the example of the pool is perfectly that is an exaggeration and I do not mean what the miner mining, if not what the pool earns by the miners minors, and as I say is an exaggeration and I know that I do not know You can ask for the age in the pool.But I see that you are not interested in the first thing I ask you and that I want to make it clear that it is not a personal attack against you but that it is what I think of all the casinos, Dice, etc. Does anyone ask to verify age ?? Does anyone care that anyone who loses their money is underage ???
Anyone here can assure me that someone verified and of age will not defraud me ????
It is more difficult, correct, but not infallible
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easy now!-) @everbody! there is nothing here to start a shouting match on!
I for my part, dont mind at all investing in someone underage if he comes up with an good Idea and has a plan!
I'd even encourage young people to get involved and come up with a thought out business model!
Still I'd like to know with what "age" I'm dealing with. Because he or she is going to have some real world legal restrictions if underage! And the size of an Asset matters!The simplest solution to this I see is to ask @haitch if he can mark the verification's as "underage"?! I guess the Info should be there if they send him a ID copy or something similar?
Is this possible?
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@potkas
once again i was only posting my opinion. how you took that is down to you. no one else has bit on what i posted. and started calling me uncooperative.all im saying is i support the original poster that theirs a problem and now your picking apart my conversation even more
i havnt a clue whats possible. i aint admin here and i dont over see the block chain. its not in my power to make these decisions but if it was my decision i would simply not allow the promotion of an asset on my platform. by a minor
why
cause it could be illegal.
ALL rules around brokerage and stock exchanges and assets for that matter require you to be over the age of 18 in some country's less. and if you are less you need your parents and guardians signature and information. now i fail to see how the asset exchange is any different.
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@Energy you are attacking me. I already responded to your question; we do, if we find out that they are underage. Like real casinos too, if you are 16 and look like 24, they would not stop you and ask for your ID.
I feel you just want to get out of the problem. If they are underage, and they are not verified, is all fine, as they can still post the assets, create an asset and promote it too. If they get verified (the whole point of protecting the community), we should know when they are underage, that's all.
I know you want to defend @haitch like you've been doing for some time now, but I'm not attacking @haitch I just ask he take this in consideration for FUTURE approvals ^_^
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@Zeus said in Why haitch verified Kids for issuing assets? or its any misunderstanding going on!!:
but I'm not attacking @haitch I just ask he take this in consideration for FUTURE approvals ^_^
gold
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@Lexicon In my country there's not a minimum age to open a company, and for instance my ID card don't have my birth date so i think that in many cases @haitch could not know they were minors... But i agree that someones knows that an asset issuer is a minor, then it should be stated in the asset thread, so investors can make their decisions with knowledge...
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@all have a look here: https://forums.burst-team.us/topic/4434/draft-code-of-practice-for-issuing-assets
Iknow0 is being constructive, please support the discussion
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@Zeus said in Why haitch verified Kids for issuing assets? or its any misunderstanding going on!!:
@Energy to be a miner you don't need age verification because you are not sending hard earned money, the miner is earning that money. Not the same thing at all, and yes, when we suspect a user is underage, we instantly ban them and do an age verification research if they want to be back.
Anyway, I don't care, I don't own any of these assets because I never trust a new member that doesn't have anything to show, I just think, and as @potkas says, this is a thing to considerate while approving an asset.
Anyone can create assets, but if they are verified members it would be good if they post this information or haitch can say in his thread "Member approved, underage."
If the community can agree on what is underage, I'm happy to flag them, if that's the desire of the community.
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@haitch Thank you! :D
I think < 18 is underage in most countries.
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@gpedro thats poor. usually all id has and age on. and the reason for this is because in most countrys its used to validate whether they can buy cigarettes, alcohol and strippers.
whilst in your country it might be fine and legal we need to facilitate for the laws that most of the community operate on.
whilst its good being able to do all that before your under 18 it still doesn't stop it being bad in certain country's so its probably best to go off the rule that you need to be over 18..its like in Portugal certain things are decriminalized in small amounts but it still doesn't make it right to carry it on a plane to another country. so the law of other countrys needs to be honored
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@haitch Just to take a different, short term, angle on this. What is now going to be done about Energizer, Helium and any other "Under Age" Assets that get exposed resulting in dumping of shares and trashing of the share price?
@haitch I think the minimum you should do is to contact them to find out their plans, perhaps an orderly wind up of the Asset with a buyback of shares?
Also worth thinking about is if one of them does a runner what are you going to with the Identity Information you have? If the answer is nothing because they are a minor then I think that answers the question on allowing promotion of an Asset from a Minor.
Rich
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I lived in the state of Nevada before I came to Germany. There are underage laws for a reason. Why you guys are picking at Lexicon's post is beyond me cause this is the view of the majority. I wont say every kid cant handle assets Hell there are adults that cant either but thats another subject. I think most kids need to grow up before they deal with other peoples money or gamble. There are laws in every country covering that.
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I think since we are on burst-team.us it would be better to put the age on 21! To avoid any yet unknown issues right from the start! Or is that just for drinking?? (never been to the US)
@Lexicon that's not poor! just different and maybe a little strange to us! However, it does not matter that much because the big big majority will have their age on an ID. Otherwise they will have to come up with an document which states their age.
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Yes they should not be allowed to gamble, but that does not mean they shouldnt be allowed to release an asset. The community SHOULD be notified if they are underage, and the same community should be open to helping kids learn, and grow in burst. Eventually they will be the ones keeping it running while the original burst project team is in nursing homes lol
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@Lexicon I mean my ID has my date of birth yes but it's saved in the chip, not phisically written, and tobacco machines commonly have a card reader in there...
Although as i said before i agree that if you are verified then you should have your age verified aswell, and i think a minor should be able to open an asset, although it should say in the Asset Thread his/her age so investors can evaluate their risk!
EDIT: i just confirmed and afterall my ID card says my birth date yes, i just confused it with my address wich is stored in the chip... But i know for a fact that a person with a international visa ID has not their birth date in my country...
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@nixxda sorry i meant poor as in im shocked that a country could have no age on the majority of the identity cards they give out. due to the fact i didnt understand how this protects children in that country from hazards such as underage smoking and drinking. it wasnt meant in the way it was probably read.
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Let's put this to a vote. :)
Should assets have more vetting and verification before being posted on the forums?
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Ok, so to hopefully sum this up and perhaps close this thread we all agree that :
- From now on, we NEED to be informed if an issuer is under 21/18 (that age thinf i'm not sure how to solve)
- Once the community is informed, they are to be allowed to launch assets because indeed it can happen that they might actually come up with gold
- EVERY INVESTOR IS RESPONSIBLE FOR THEIR ACTION ONCE INFORMED FULLY !!!!
i hope we all agree on these points and move on. the past 4 hours of this debate have led to the same 3 points i made anyway.
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@Lexicon said in Why haitch verified Kids for issuing assets? or its any misunderstanding going on!!:
@dvndr007 do you or anyone else in this thread have a problem with anything ive posted? or share the same opinion. id like to know. cause right now it feels like im being targeted simply for being affiliated with burstnation. i only came here to post about my asset div's and place my opinion on this. i wasnt expecting this
Thankyou for your time you give this thread you are most welcome to post anything you feel right Thankyou!!


