Why haitch verified Kids for issuing assets? or its any misunderstanding going on!!
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@Zeus I as an investor i always research assets before investing ! If its a new asset then i go and look around and ask questions! If i became scammed by a kid after investing in hes asset its only my fault... Im not saying it would be a bad idea to try and do something against kids and scammers opening assets but you just can guarantee that! But yes it would be good if someone is id verified then as well verify hes age in the future! But still i believe its your responsibility as an investor to find out who you make business with!
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@Zeus said in Why haitch verified Kids for issuing assets? or its any misunderstanding going on!!:
All I'm going to say is, he knew they were kids because of the verification, he should at least tell them to say it in the posts.
The risk of sending our hard earned money to kids is just too high!
Ask you age verification to play in your casino ???
They ask the age verification pool to accept miners ???
In poloniex that I know I have not been asked to justify my age, I do not know if they ask to operate in euros or dollars that is not the case here.
Or it asks for age verification for everything, not only for what interests us or if it is not still the responsibility of the investor to investigate what he thinks necessary and decide whether to trust or not
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@potkas im unsure what your accusing here. i just posted my opinion and now im getting blasted for it?
im not trying to break this community anyone who knows me would know im looking out for community members.
thanks for letting me know but i dont respect being called un-cooperative when i was merely putting forward my 2 burst.
i dont post here anywhere enough as i used to due to the fear i would be categorized into the category of fanboy. and you can clearly see im looking out for the kids as well as the investors when i said all this.
im here putting ideas of what should be done and if thats uncooperative i might as well not post here cause i dont know what is
its up the OP what is and isn't appropriate to post here.
in normal law anyone who is under the age of 16 needs their parents and gaurdians permission to open a brokerage account. why shouldn't this be any different?
theres something called moral's and the moral thing to do in line with all legislation on this matter is to follow what is already law on similar platforms. (SEC rules on trading, money laundering) and allowing promotion of an asset by a minor would normally be a felony however because a blockchain is decentralized im unsure how that fits here.
in a court of law this could be charged with conspiracy and the delinquency of a minor
but those last few things i aint 100% sure on.
im disappointed to meet this sort of resistance when im trying to do things for the greater good
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@Lexicon you are saying something but doing the opposite... Show me one idea you shared with us how to deal with this... I can see only criticism from your side. And im not accusing you im just saying how it looks what you are doing...
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@Energy to be a miner you don't need age verification because you are not sending hard earned money, the miner is earning that money. Not the same thing at all, and yes, when we suspect a user is underage, we instantly ban them and do an age verification research if they want to be back.
Anyway, I don't care, I don't own any of these assets because I never trust a new member that doesn't have anything to show, I just think, and as @potkas says, this is a thing to considerate while approving an asset.
Anyone can create assets, but if they are verified members it would be good if they post this information or haitch can say in his thread "Member approved, underage."
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i personally would rather have a safeguard in place to protect children from setting up assets on there ownif i was an investor knowing the age (if they are under age) would be information invaluable to a decision in investing in any asseti wouldn't want my kids taking thousands of thousands of pounds from people on the internet, without my knowledgethe rest of it is just my opinion. .
all ive seen thus far is you picking apart mine and other peoples opinions on the situation. and the false accusation of me blaming haitch for something when i wasn't.
@dvndr007 do you or anyone else in this thread have a problem with anything ive posted? or share the same opinion. id like to know. cause right now it feels like im being targeted simply for being affiliated with burstnation. i only came here to post about my asset div's and place my opinion on this. i wasnt expecting this.
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@Lexicon No one is being attacked just for being affiliated with burst nation... from the 3 sentences you added the first is a wish with no possibility to do so or you have an idea how it would be possible to do so? With the second one everyone agrees but again how would you do it? And again the 3 one just like in the second how to stop it? And no it was not you blaming haitch you just supported someones post blaming haitch...
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@Lexicon said in Why haitch verified Kids for issuing assets? or its any misunderstanding going on!!:
@dvndr007 do you or anyone else in this thread have a problem with anything ive posted? or share the same opinion. id like to know. cause right now it feels like im being targeted simply for being affiliated with burstnation. i only came here to post about my asset div's and place my opinion on this. i wasnt expecting this.
sorry lex, couldn't help myself..it had to be done
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@Zeus
When I put the example of the pool is perfectly that is an exaggeration and I do not mean what the miner mining, if not what the pool earns by the miners minors, and as I say is an exaggeration and I know that I do not know You can ask for the age in the pool.But I see that you are not interested in the first thing I ask you and that I want to make it clear that it is not a personal attack against you but that it is what I think of all the casinos, Dice, etc. Does anyone ask to verify age ?? Does anyone care that anyone who loses their money is underage ???
Anyone here can assure me that someone verified and of age will not defraud me ????
It is more difficult, correct, but not infallible
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easy now!-) @everbody! there is nothing here to start a shouting match on!
I for my part, dont mind at all investing in someone underage if he comes up with an good Idea and has a plan!
I'd even encourage young people to get involved and come up with a thought out business model!
Still I'd like to know with what "age" I'm dealing with. Because he or she is going to have some real world legal restrictions if underage! And the size of an Asset matters!The simplest solution to this I see is to ask @haitch if he can mark the verification's as "underage"?! I guess the Info should be there if they send him a ID copy or something similar?
Is this possible?
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@potkas
once again i was only posting my opinion. how you took that is down to you. no one else has bit on what i posted. and started calling me uncooperative.all im saying is i support the original poster that theirs a problem and now your picking apart my conversation even more
i havnt a clue whats possible. i aint admin here and i dont over see the block chain. its not in my power to make these decisions but if it was my decision i would simply not allow the promotion of an asset on my platform. by a minor
why
cause it could be illegal.
ALL rules around brokerage and stock exchanges and assets for that matter require you to be over the age of 18 in some country's less. and if you are less you need your parents and guardians signature and information. now i fail to see how the asset exchange is any different.
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@Energy you are attacking me. I already responded to your question; we do, if we find out that they are underage. Like real casinos too, if you are 16 and look like 24, they would not stop you and ask for your ID.
I feel you just want to get out of the problem. If they are underage, and they are not verified, is all fine, as they can still post the assets, create an asset and promote it too. If they get verified (the whole point of protecting the community), we should know when they are underage, that's all.
I know you want to defend @haitch like you've been doing for some time now, but I'm not attacking @haitch I just ask he take this in consideration for FUTURE approvals ^_^
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@Zeus said in Why haitch verified Kids for issuing assets? or its any misunderstanding going on!!:
but I'm not attacking @haitch I just ask he take this in consideration for FUTURE approvals ^_^
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@Lexicon In my country there's not a minimum age to open a company, and for instance my ID card don't have my birth date so i think that in many cases @haitch could not know they were minors... But i agree that someones knows that an asset issuer is a minor, then it should be stated in the asset thread, so investors can make their decisions with knowledge...
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@all have a look here: https://forums.burst-team.us/topic/4434/draft-code-of-practice-for-issuing-assets
Iknow0 is being constructive, please support the discussion
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@Zeus said in Why haitch verified Kids for issuing assets? or its any misunderstanding going on!!:
@Energy to be a miner you don't need age verification because you are not sending hard earned money, the miner is earning that money. Not the same thing at all, and yes, when we suspect a user is underage, we instantly ban them and do an age verification research if they want to be back.
Anyway, I don't care, I don't own any of these assets because I never trust a new member that doesn't have anything to show, I just think, and as @potkas says, this is a thing to considerate while approving an asset.
Anyone can create assets, but if they are verified members it would be good if they post this information or haitch can say in his thread "Member approved, underage."
If the community can agree on what is underage, I'm happy to flag them, if that's the desire of the community.
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@haitch Thank you! :D
I think < 18 is underage in most countries.
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@gpedro thats poor. usually all id has and age on. and the reason for this is because in most countrys its used to validate whether they can buy cigarettes, alcohol and strippers.
whilst in your country it might be fine and legal we need to facilitate for the laws that most of the community operate on.
whilst its good being able to do all that before your under 18 it still doesn't stop it being bad in certain country's so its probably best to go off the rule that you need to be over 18..its like in Portugal certain things are decriminalized in small amounts but it still doesn't make it right to carry it on a plane to another country. so the law of other countrys needs to be honored
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@haitch Just to take a different, short term, angle on this. What is now going to be done about Energizer, Helium and any other "Under Age" Assets that get exposed resulting in dumping of shares and trashing of the share price?
@haitch I think the minimum you should do is to contact them to find out their plans, perhaps an orderly wind up of the Asset with a buyback of shares?
Also worth thinking about is if one of them does a runner what are you going to with the Identity Information you have? If the answer is nothing because they are a minor then I think that answers the question on allowing promotion of an Asset from a Minor.
Rich
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I lived in the state of Nevada before I came to Germany. There are underage laws for a reason. Why you guys are picking at Lexicon's post is beyond me cause this is the view of the majority. I wont say every kid cant handle assets Hell there are adults that cant either but thats another subject. I think most kids need to grow up before they deal with other peoples money or gamble. There are laws in every country covering that.



