Thank You Adam Guerbuez and Jason Crowe


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    @theduuude Like I said, I'm not fighting with anyone.



  • @haitch said in Thank You Adam Guerbuez and Jason Crowe:

    @Propagandalf What's with all the censorship over there? Every post I've made over there, including the very polite ones, have been deleted and the account that posted it banned. I've been sent screen shots of posts that Focus is refusing to allow to be published. Seems as if you're not singing the party song, you're deleted and banned. Seems more like a cult than a public forum.

    I haven't been involved in the cencorship of your posts, so I can't comment on that, apart from seeing myself that you were creating drama with several fake accounts. I don't know if the scenario you depicted came before or after the event I described, but if it was after, then I think the reason is pretty clear. Also, you are directly involved with what I, from the outside, perceive as a direct personal conflict with the admins of BN, so I think that this has likely influenced decisions regarding your presense there, but you probably already knew that.

    BN is intended, amongst other things, to be a drama free place for spreading information about Burst, which sometimes means that posts get cencored if they are out of line, as many have already been. Just now for instance, someone keeps joining with multiple childish and offensive nicknames such as "adamguerbuezisfat", "fuckyouadam" and similar, probably as a result of this thread. We also try to keep threads clutter free and on-topic in order to improve the quality of content. I know not all agree with such cencorship, but Burst has other outlets that are non-censored, so I'm good with that and people choose themselves where they want to go. Having some kind of censorship in a forum is not uncommon elsewhere, so I don't know why it's such a big deal here. Polo has censorship, lots of people laugh about it and yet they keep using it, so it can't be that bad.

    If you see BN as a cult, that's your opinion. BN staff is trying to create more value for Burst, and it is sometimes shocking to see the resistance and attacks coming from numerous people in this community. Many of the haters seem to have in common that they are relatively new to Burst, so maybe it's their way of marking territory or something like that. BN staff has on several occasions been described as "having the wool pulled over their eyes", and being stupid, blind and similar, as if they are not privy to 'the grand truth' held by certain individuals in here. It should not be like this, but I am getting used to it slowly.

    From my perspective, I see a bunch of happy people having a good time in BN talking about Burst, like people used to do here. I'm not trying to say one is better than the other, because I like both, and I wish to see them both thrive. I also want to see Burst grow further, so that personal disputes like this make much less of an impact. But seeing as these arguments appear to never end, I think ignoring each other is the only viable option, for now.

    @keyd0s said in Thank You Adam Guerbuez and Jason Crowe:

    Are you kidding me? If the leaders of a public burst forum with the highest amount of users is publicly throwing remarks like this around, I think that has everything to do with burst? How can you be so ignorant to deny that? I think he he has honestly every right to post about this publicly and let the world the know all the facts. I myself was already wondering what that message was about.

    Surely you must have seen that this goes both ways, right? As far as I remember, Socal and many other have outright slammed Adam using quite colourful language, and so he slams back. Anyway, my point here was that this drama has gone way too far, and that there is no need to plaster personal discontent all over the forums. In my opinion it should be off-topic, for the sake of Burst. It's getting to the point where we could start a new forum and just discuss Adam with each others all day long.


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    @Propagandalf said in Thank You Adam Guerbuez and Jason Crowe:

    @haitch said in Thank You Adam Guerbuez and Jason Crowe:

    @Propagandalf What's with all the censorship over there? Every post I've made over there, including the very polite ones, have been deleted and the account that posted it banned. I've been sent screen shots of posts that Focus is refusing to allow to be published. Seems as if you're not singing the party song, you're deleted and banned. Seems more like a cult than a public forum.

    I haven't been involved in the cencorship of your posts, so I can't comment on that, apart from seeing myself that you were creating drama with several fake accounts. I don't know if the scenario you depicted came before or after the event I described, but if it was after, then I think the reason is pretty clear. Also, you are directly involved with what I, from the outside, perceive as a direct personal conflict with the admins of BN, so I think that this has likely influenced decisions regarding your presense there, but you probably already knew that.

    I never created drama. Yes I used fake accounts, my real account had it's single polite post addressing Adams BS deleted and the account deleted, The fake accounts addressed adam/focus BS - and those posts were deleted and the accounts banned. Ask Palmaris how life is over there. @Propagandalf - I'm banned from those forums, are any of those people banned here?



  • @Propagandalf said in Thank You Adam Guerbuez and Jason Crowe:

    @haitch said in Thank You Adam Guerbuez and Jason Crowe:

    @Propagandalf What's with all the censorship over there? Every post I've made over there, including the very polite ones, have been deleted and the account that posted it banned. I've been sent screen shots of posts that Focus is refusing to allow to be published. Seems as if you're not singing the party song, you're deleted and banned. Seems more like a cult than a public forum.

    I haven't been involved in the cencorship of your posts, so I can't comment on that, apart from seeing myself that you were creating drama with several fake accounts. I don't know if the scenario you depicted came before or after the event I described, but if it was after, then I think the reason is pretty clear. Also, you are directly involved with what I, from the outside, perceive as a direct personal conflict with the admins of BN, so I think that this has likely influenced decisions regarding your presense there, but you probably already knew that.

    BN is intended, amongst other things, to be a drama free place for spreading information about Burst, which sometimes means that posts get cencored if they are out of line, as many have already been. Just now for instance, someone keeps joining with multiple childish and offensive nicknames such as "adamguerbuezisfat", "fuckyouadam" and similar, probably as a result of this thread. We also try to keep threads clutter free and on-topic in order to improve the quality of content. I know not all agree with such cencorship, but Burst has other outlets that are non-censored, so I'm good with that and people choose themselves where they want to go. Having some kind of censorship in a forum is not uncommon elsewhere, so I don't know why it's such a big deal here. Polo has censorship, lots of people laugh about it and yet they keep using it, so it can't be that bad.

    If you see BN as a cult, that's your opinion. BN staff is trying to create more value for Burst, and it is sometimes shocking to see the resistance and attacks coming from numerous people in this community. Many of the haters seem to have in common that they are relatively new to Burst, so maybe it's their way of marking territory or something like that. BN staff has on several occasions been described as "having the wool pulled over their eyes", and being stupid, blind and similar, as if they are not privy to 'the grand truth' held by certain individuals in here. It should not be like this, but I am getting used to it slowly.

    From my perspective, I see a bunch of happy people having a good time in BN talking about Burst, like people used to do here. I'm not trying to say one is better than the other, because I like both, and I wish to see them both thrive. I also want to see Burst grow further, so that personal disputes like this make much less of an impact. But seeing as these arguments appear to never end, I think ignoring each other is the only viable option, for now.

    @keyd0s said in Thank You Adam Guerbuez and Jason Crowe:

    Are you kidding me? If the leaders of a public burst forum with the highest amount of users is publicly throwing remarks like this around, I think that has everything to do with burst? How can you be so ignorant to deny that? I think he he has honestly every right to post about this publicly and let the world the know all the facts. I myself was already wondering what that message was about.

    Surely you must have seen that this goes both ways, right? As far as I remember, Socal and many other have outright slammed Adam using quite colourful language, and so he slams back. Anyway, my point here was that this drama has gone way too far, and that there is no need to plaster personal discontent all over the forums. In my opinion it should be off-topic, for the sake of Burst. It's getting to the point where we could start a new forum and just discuss Adam with each others all day long.

    @Propagandalf a step in the right direction, but too many words for "lets get along from now on".



  • @Propagandalf If I remember correctly Adam and Focus started this fight with me back when I joined Burst and started discussing making an asset. They immediately accused me of being a scammer and Adam even publicly threatened to DUMP BURST to 1 Satoshi if my Asset was released.

    So in your own words please remember "It goes both ways"

    I am not trying to fight with you or anyone else I am simply presenting the facts of the situation.



  • @socal said in Thank You Adam Guerbuez and Jason Crowe:

    @Propagandalf If I remember correctly Adam and Focus started this fight with me back when I joined Burst and started discussing making an asset. They immediately accused me of being a scammer and Adam even publicly threatened to DUMP BURST to 1 Satoshi if my Asset was released.

    So in your own words please remember "It goes both ways"

    I am not trying to fight with you or anyone else I am simply presenting the facts of the situation.

    @socal lets heal...cut the BS out of your OP.

    p.s. "cut the bs/facts" your call. Not for public display



  • @theduuude I'm more then happy to mind my own business over here in these forums and leave them be at BN but I will not allow them to pull these childish games and I will not retract what I have said as I still stand by it 110%.



  • @socal i haven't seen it. pls post a link. I'd like to see

    also, you need to stop with the tipline news sh!t. WTH are you thinking...? this is crypto, get a grip



  • @theduuude I looked back at the Pre ANN thread and Focus and Adam have deleted those posts so you can see where they were but not what the content was, I searched on the way back machine but it didnt archive the thread.

    And as I stated I will not retract what I have said. They want to play games, cool I'll play games. If they want to chill with the games and leave each other the hell alone I am fine with that as well, but I will be damned if I don't defend myself.



  • @socal fine but, you need to stop with the tipline news sh!t. WTH are you thinking...? this is crypto, get a grip

    seriously...pls remove the verbiage from OP. for all crypto



  • @theduuude How does that affect all of crypto? I will not remove factual public knowledge.

    I have already shown good faith by not calling the news station after they tried to hack me after I posted this thread. So the ball is in their court, they can let things rest and go about their lives or they can make their next move and I'll make mine.



  • @socal fiat/establishment is against crypto (burst and "all crypto"). We need to unite. Clear?



  • @socal Show evidence of hack please or modify OP with tipline.



  • @theduuude http://imgur.com/a/YkId7 here is the link to the screenshots of my phone's notification logs.

    I have 2-factor authentication setup that requires me to approve or deny each log in attempt, I obviously denied them and scrambled my passwords for good measure.

    You will be able to see that within a few minutes there were three attempts to access my email account.



  • @socal god, can't believe they would do that.



  • @theduuude believe me now? I have no reason to lie when the truth is far more damning.

    But as I said their move we can either drop it and ignore each other and stay in our respective forums of choice or they can strike out at me again and we will see where it goes.



  • @socal said in Thank You Adam Guerbuez and Jason Crowe:

    @theduuude http://imgur.com/a/YkId7 here is the link to the screenshots of my phone's notification logs.

    I have 2-factor authentication setup that requires me to approve or deny each log in attempt, I obviously denied them and scrambled my passwords for good measure.

    You will be able to see that within a few minutes there were three attempts to access my email account.

    fair enough...

    You are a significant person in the burst ecosystem. Can we temporarily remove this post for the sake of new bursters? It will scare them off. This does not mean that it is not justified.

    I will be going after nation posts as well. I am a 1% owner in burst and I want to protect my investment.

    I have 1% burst to go after the BS ego sh!t, or for burst development. I am going to get more involved. All or nothing.



  • @theduuude I am not that significant to the ecosystem here, I have one relatively small asset.

    I do see your point and I will agree to remove the phone number and station name but nothing more. I am sorry if you are displeased with this offer but it is all I will offer. As I stated I have already shown good faith by not retaliating for the hack attempts.

    It's not about ego or who's more popular it's about the fact that they have publicly attacked, slandered, and tried to humiliate me. That makes this personal. So again I will say I am willing to meet them half way and stay away from BN and generally pretend they don't exist if they extend me the same hospitality.



  • infighting must stop



  • @theduuude The OP has been modified and an Edit note left


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