pool.burst-team.us payout confusion
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@iKnow0 said in pool.burst-team.us payout confusion:
@BurstMiner1
yes 76
so 2146+76 = 2222 (total payment received by pool for the block)2222 *.98 = 2177.56 (less the pool fee of 2%)
2177.56 * .6 = 1306.536 (total pool current share percentage)
2177.56 * .4 = 871.024 (total pool historic percentage)
1306.536 * 0.0022 = 2.8743792 (your share of the total current share percentage)
871.024 * 0.0187 = 16.2881488 (your share of the total historic share percentage)
so you should have got 2.8743792+16.2881488 = 19.162528
after four blocks
this is my understanding, if this is incorrect please let me know
for block #331119So you are saying I should have got 19.162528 BURST on block 331119? That's interesting. @haitch has something much lower and my screenshots would also disagree with that.
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@BurstMiner1 this is the way i understand it works, i could be mistaken
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@iKnow0 said in pool.burst-team.us payout confusion:
@BurstMiner1
yes 76
so 2146+76 = 2222 (total payment received by pool for the block)2222 *.98 = 2177.56 (less the pool fee of 2%)
2177.56 * .6 = 1306.536 (total pool current share percentage)
2177.56 * .4 = 871.024 (total pool historic percentage)
1306.536 * 0.0022 = 2.8743792 (your share of the total current share percentage)
871.024 * 0.0187 = 16.2881488 (your share of the total historic share percentage)
so you should have got 2.8743792+16.2881488 = 19.162528
after four blocks
this is my understanding, if this is incorrect please let me know
for block #331119I think you messed up your decimal places.
@haitch has this query 193734903
I assume you mean 19162528xThe x is a decimal place to bring it more in line. Even so a difference still exists.
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@BurstMiner1 what do you mean? query??
i was working off
Block 331119
Current: 0.22
Historical: 1.87you have to be careful, its best to do this with a block that takes a long time 15min+ , as some miners can submit deadlines very late especially if mining while plotting. A late deadline would change all the %'s
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@haitch told me that he would be able to run an sql query to get my exact payout for that block, which is provided above.
I was very careful. Do you have any idea how long it takes waiting for blocks to be written ready with finger on the button to grab a screenshot. I've spent hours on this. And when I do believe a mistake was made or potentially the information was wrong I dumped those records. I have 2 samples to test and I am still waiting on the query for the second. As soon as that is supplied I will tune my calculations for block fees and report back. Though I still believe an issue exists. Thanks very much for the help. Surprised other were unable to advise on the block fees, just goes to show.
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@BurstMiner1 i examined it before and it seemed correct, but each pool is different so who know's.
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I have also questioned the accountability of the system. If you read this whole thread you will see what I mean. If those functions were put in place then it would make life a lot easier.
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@BurstMiner1 yes i agree. In accounting the system of double entry is used to verify calculations. I suggested to some pool operators before to do reverse calculations based on payouts to check that everything balances. So that neither the pool operator or pool miners lose out.
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Look the competition hates ninja pools because they win all the time. At least everybody hates Jeff Gordan why because he won all the time and their drivers didn't. Now Like in
Nascar every pool starts the same under the hood. I can tell most of the beginner miners don't like Uray code and 2 years ago left every uray coded pool to goto Ninjas. When I look at the Ninja code I see the same uray style payout from 2014 along with the same coded functions from uray code. The different is the pretty picture. I can take any pools web interface and change it to look like theirs, even ninjas without disturbing the code while you mine.
Lex took the Uray code and improved the block payout but its still a split where some goes to the block winner and some goes to the miners.
Last year was a great year for finding blocks because the reward was 3700+ Now a reward of 2146 can not pay 100+ miners. Later I'll breakout a uray payout and a lex payout
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My min payout is set at 80 because the little miners have no where to go but us small pools who welcome them . I can set my min to 300 a day like ninja yet do you believe how many small miners and newbies that affects.
future
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@BurstMiner1 I'm at work at the moment, I can get payout info from the DB when I get home - about 90 minutes.
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@iKnow0 @BurstMiner1 I am not sure if this affects your calculation but the Total Reward in the Current and Historic Share Columns does not include the Transaction Fee, they add up to the Block Reward - the Pool Fee of 2% (2146 * 0.98 = 2103)
Rich
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@RichBC does the pool operator just keep the block reward fee?
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Some do some don't not sure which is which. I have personally checked ninja and EU for the correct share payouts. They were correct as far as I was concerned.
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@iKnow0 Not saying that / don't know.... But I have tried to work out the detail before and got close enough to feel "happy" but have never been able to get the numbers to add exactly. However an addition of the Rewards adds exactly to 60% & 40% of the Block reward - Pool fee of 2%.
Sort of makes sense that the calculation for the columns comes off a fixed rather than variable amount but if and how the Transaction fee is added back into the equation I am not sure, just retracing some of my steps.
Also very relevant with the Rain as in can these Days be quite large.
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@RichBC said in pool.burst-team.us payout confusion:
@iKnow0 @BurstMiner1 I am not sure if this affects your calculation but the Total Reward in the Current and Historic Share Columns does not include the Transaction Fee, they add up to the Block Reward - the Pool Fee of 2% (2146 * 0.98 = 2103)
Rich
Ok so just to be clear that reward of 2103 is the set maximum reward to be split between historical and current, as the pool fees are the first adjustment? The "Transaction Fees" are a second adjustment? 2103 - block fees = the 60/40 ratio for current and historic respectively? If not where do the block fees adjust any total?
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@BurstMiner1 All I am saying is that the displayed Reward Columns, Current and Historic add up to 60% & 40% of 2103.
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@RichBC said in pool.burst-team.us payout confusion:
@BurstMiner1 All I am saying is that the displayed Reward Columns, Current and Historic add up to 60% & 40% of 2103.
Ok thanks Rich. I suppose the consensus is that only haitch can answer where block fees factor in as the setup is different from pool to pool?
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@BurstMiner1 No, only Catbref who wrote the pool code would be able to answer it with certainty - I don't know.
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@haitch You should mention him then xD
@catbref can you elaborate man?
EDIT: well he is not online for more than 1 month but he was around Alttech some time ago and came here to the forum too... xD



