www.BURSTNation.com Making it Rain

LithStud

So whos the grumpy one eh? :P Since i am nice most of the time (at least i hope i am :D ) people tend to not take seriously what i write :)

Considering the tx fee, while its nice for network its not nice if its done artificially. Just my 0.5 BURST

P.S. Those considering putting 3.1 (decimal increase over what Adam puts in) works just sort of still tx got delayed for like 5 blocks (well i suppose its not an hour like i had some yesterday)

ccminer

@luxe the problem is when normal transactions or assets orders or payments get delayed because someone is spamming the network.

At least it is what I'm experiencing.

Plus my miner since the spam took place sometime give me an error.

2017-02-15 19:02:06.576  WARN 30406 --- [  networkPool-1] .j.c.n.t.NetworkRequestTriggerServerTask : Error: Failed to 'getUnconfirmedTransactions' to trigger server.

That I think is related with this

luxe

@ccminer the error just means, that wallet could not deliver the unconfirmed transactions in 'connectionTimeout' time, maybe due to a lot transactions ... so just increase that. Sure if there are thousands of unconfirmed transactions wallets need some more time. (btw. that is not in any way important for mining, just to keep wallet from falling asleep)

If pool payout or asset payout should not be delayed a few blocks, they have to pay more fee ... thats the idea, same like bitcoin. Did you never pay too less fee on BTC and waited days for your transaction :-)

LithStud

@luxe as i said its ok when there is actual demand and not an artificial thing.

ccminer

@luxe the fees level in the bitcoin network increased naturally because the bitcoin got more popular and more and more people start to used it overtime. Not because a single SPAMMER to "promote" his business force all the others to fit with it from one day to another

LithStud

also who wants to bet that if we go 4 burst fee he increases it to 4 burst as well. since i can see hes decreasing the amount sent :) at the moment its 7 burst and 3 fee so he still has a way to go if he so desires.

EDIT: Oh and scratch my previous comment about decimal increase in fee (3.1 burst) helping - it doesnt

luxe

@LithStud If increasing fee does not give a transaction a higher prio, it would be a problem in general ... but maybe your transaction just not made it though the network?! The rebroadcasting fix for future version 1.2.8 could solve that, maybe?!

ccminer

last thing and what if someone else start ti think that this is an amazing way to "promote"/spam and start to do the same!

nixxda

1 1/2 hours later.....

LithStud

@luxe no idea, since i cant check that (tho i think it did since otherwise getUnconfirmedTransactions command would not work) it just went out so it still gets higher priority than the 1 fee, just for it took 20 blocks

haitch

@luxe What I find interesting/concerning, is that even though there is room for more transactions in the block, almost no other transactions are coming through. There's not many 0 transaction blocks, and certainly multiple 0 transaction blocks in a row is pretty much unheard of, yet when Adam is raining, he's pretty much the only one that can send.

RichBC

@luxe Don't suppose it's possible, but if the system only allowed the fee to be set at a max of 1/10 of the Burst in the transaction that would work.

What would also be good is if Reward Assignment and Asset transactions etc. could have some sort of priority? However for the moment I will just have to remember to up the fee. Which I just forgot to do again.....

Rich

LithStud

@RichBC no worries it seems shitstorm ended for now, thats why my 3.1 went throu (and i thought priority sigh)

Energy

Who benefits from the increase in fees??? To the miners

To all the miners ??? No, only the big ones, the little ones would hardly notice.

Conclusion, if I am a big miner, I spend some miserable BURST doing spam, I recover quickly and then I leave cattle

RichBC

@Energy As a matter of interest, what happens in a Pool to the increased fee. Is it kept by the Pool or included in the payout to the Miners?

Rich

Lexicon

shit storm probably isnt over yet. its all run through my laptop and i had to leave to go home from work about an hour ago .

unsure what happens to the fee. i know on my source it gets added to the reward. but this is done by adding the two fields together.

on old uray sources. the fee gets sent out aswell however it works slightly differently (balance of the pool - pending payments) the remainder is sent out to the miners

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FlippyCakes

I had no idea that BURST was capped at about 1 transaction per second. Are there any plans to increase this? Or are we going to go through all the crap that Bitcoin's currently experiencing?

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Propagandalf

Reading this thread it becomes clear that people have different opinions about receiving free money. I see it has created temporary transaction delays, but the block size can simply be increased at some point in time. Same thing will happen when we get more and more people executing transactions also. Since being bombarded with free coins is likely not a constant problem, I doubt whether the devs will prioritize this. Thanks for the free coins, though, my pockets are always open for such events. Really, I can see how delays are annoying, but hating on people who dish out free coins makes little sense when this 'issue' narrows down to the block size. If I knew how to do it, I would'nt mind sending some 'rain' on my fellow Bursters either. :)