Need Tech help on plotting
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I will try to explain this so when you all start to answer you will know where I am. 2 days ago I upgraded my HDD's went from 10ish TB to 25TB 1X5TB and 2X8TB all Seagate external HDD's. I run Win 10 I have the newest AIO wallet with the v1.0 XPlotter. Started to plot the 5TB first using the plotter that is apart of the AIO 12 hours later I was still at -n 60k but the writting the scoops was barely breathing it had only written 12% scoops. I stopped there reformatted the 5TB HDD and decided to manually do it. using the ADMINISTRATOR command prompted I set the script set the -id and -sn set thread at -t4 -path E:\burst\plots -mem 15G. error came up saying cannot plot to plots. ahh ok went back to the download for XPlotter by @Blago read and reread noticed i could change the path to just -path E:\plots -mem 15G. that was 2 days ago. My puter has 32G DDR4 ram 6th gen I7 4.4 Ghz GPU Nvidia Titan X 15Gig I have 6 external 3.0 usb slots and 2X 3.1 usb slotsso no way to mess up were to plug in the HDD's. Anyway still day 2 I am at 28% generating -n happen to really look at what is going on im at 2602 nonces/min instead of what was my typical 13k/min HMMMM looking at HDD: writing scoops: its clicking away but slowwwww exp. 16.96 to 16.97 takes about half of a sec. so now I am asking please tell me if i wrote the string wrong or what I don't know.
Thank you,
Croydan
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@croydan1 what I usually do is to generate first that file E:\Burst from the AIO wallet when selecting write plots. Then I close it (no actual need for it opened anymore) and set everything as you did in the RunThisAsAdmin.bat file. Keep in mind that if you click on the running console it stops/pauses, if pressed enter starts running again :) When you formatted what allocation unit size did you use? And how big are your plots?
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@vExact formatted at NTFS 16K and plots are 30,720 nonces
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@croydan1 use better 64KB
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@croydan1 that may have been 64K brain is tired
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@croydan1 and you get what speed?
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@croydan1 2600 nonces /min
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@croydan1 I am guessing i should stop plotting so that the \burst file is in place?
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@croydan1 thats a bit slow for the specs you have. I have similar procesor and if I use my 8 threads I can get 12k/min
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@croydan1 https://ejrh.wordpress.com/2012/10/26/cluster-size-experiment/
Also don't forget to actually right click on the bat file and run it as administrator! :)
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@vExact ok np and I was just going strait to admin cmd promp but not thru the .bat file
so I will change that also. I will post wether this has helped or still the same later.Thank you,
Croydan
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@croydan1 your drives is SMR? https://forums.burst-team.us/topic/2394/shingled-magnetic-recording-smr/25
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@Blago here is the script line and the folloing is after 10 hours
C:\Users\croyd\Downloads\XPlotter.v1.0>Xplotter_avx.exe -id 9611890149370107819 -sn 500000000 -t 8 -path E:\plots -mem 32G
XPlotter v1.0 for BURST
programmers: Blago, Cerr Janror, DCCTChecking directory...
Drive e:\ info:
Name: Seagate Backup Plus Drive
File system: NTFS
Serial Number: 3994885329
FILE_SUPPORTS_SPARSE_FILES: yes
Bytes per Sector: 512
Sectors per Cluster: 128
Creating file: e:\plots\9611890149370107819_500000000_19075840_19075840
ID: 9611890149370107819
Start_nonce: 500000000
Nonces: 19075840
Nonces per thread: 7504
Uses 30016 Mb of 30033 Mb free RAM
Allocating memory for nonces... OK
[0%] Generating nonces from 500000000 to 500060032
[0%] Generating nonces from 500060032 to 500120064
[0%] Generating nonces from 500120064 to 500180096
[0%] Generating nonces from 500180096 to 500240128
[1%] Generating nonces from 500240128 to 500300160
[1%] Generating nonces from 500300160 to 500360192
[1%] Generating nonces from 500360192 to 500420224
[2%] Generating nonces from 500420224 to 500480256
[2%] Generating nonces from 500480256 to 500540288
[2%] Generating nonces from 500540288 to 500600320
[3%] Generating nonces from 500600320 to 500660352
[3%] Generating nonces from 500660352 to 500720384
[3%] Generating nonces from 500720384 to 500780416
[4%] Generating nonces from 500780416 to 500840448
[4%] Generating nonces from 500840448 to 500900480
CPU: 900480 nonces done HDD: Writing scoops: 67.72%
and plotting at 14K/min the writting of the scoops is the slow part and to answer the question you asked I really don't know I do have http://www.seagate.com/www-content/datasheets/pdfs/bup-dt-hub-amerDS1894-1-1605-AMER-en_US.pdf that is the 8TB pdf and for the 5TB is http://www.seagate.com/www-content/product-content/backup-plus-fam/backup-plus-desktop-drive-v2/_shared/docs/backup-plus-desk-v3-ds1757-6-1505amer.pdfCroydan
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@croydan1 Both the 8TB and 5TB drive are SMR drives i guess ... thats what i had in this external drives ...
http://geizhals.eu/seagate-desktop-hdd-5tb-st5000dm000-a1118253.html (5TB)
http://geizhals.eu/seagate-archive-hdd-v2-8tb-st8000as0002-a1204027.html (8TB)
Look in the description of the above drives, both SMR.SMR drives are no problem in general if you just write to them in one squence, therefore i suggest you plot to a 'normal' PMR drive and copy over the optimized plots to the SMR drives.
Maybe you have a 2TB or 4TB already with existing plots? Copy them over to the SMR drives and after that plot that 'source' drive again and repeat.I just plotted 4TB PMR drive (http://geizhals.eu/seagate-desktop-hdd-4tb-st4000dm000-a903248.html) in one optimized plotfile with xplotter ... took ~24h.
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How can I tell if an external I have is an SMR drive?
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@socal
Multiple ways ...- As far as i know only seagate uses SMR drives
- visit manufacturer page and search for tech info on your external drive
- open the external case (will void warranty!) and google the drive product code
- post link to your external drive ... and somebody maybe knows
- trust me if i tell you 5TB and 8TB external usb3 drives from seagate are SMR (not sure on other capacity)
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List of SMR external drives:
http://geizhals.eu/?cat=hdx&xf=339_3.5"~5588_HDD~840_USB+3.0~944_Shingled+Magnetic+Recording+(SMR)
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@socal @luxe You can also use CrystalDiskInfo to get the model number and serial number of the drive without cracking it open: http://crystalmark.info/software/CrystalDiskInfo/index-e.html
I gotta say, it's a very handy tool. By looking up the model numbers I can confirm that all my 4TB Seagate Externals have Desktop (PMR) drives in them, and all the 8TB Seagate Externals have Archive (SMR) drives in them. It also shows drive temperature, firmware version, and of course lets you know if your drive is about to die by reading the S.M.A.R.T. data. I was getting very slow read times from jminer all of a sudden and I narrowed it down to one of my 8TB Seagate NAS drives. Sure enough, CrystalDiskInfo flagged it as CAUTION and I noticed the firmware version on that drive was SC60, whereas the firmware version on the drive which is still running fine is SC61. So I sent that bad boy in for RMA.
I imagine the tech at Seagate spinning it up and wondering why there are massive incomprehensible data files on it in a mysterious "Burst" folder. :)
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@luxe How about WD My Book 8TB. Are those SMR drives as well?
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@luxe said in Need Tech help on plotting:
- As far as i know only seagate uses SMR drives
@pr0cesor So i would say no they are PMR ... this one even uses 8TB RED drives:
https://www.wdc.com/products/external-storage/my-book-duo.html#WDBLWE0160JCH-NESN
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i got a WD 8GB feck they expensive or what! if i didnt win a 1 of auction, it wouldve cost $550! AU$ thankfully i won the pokies got it for $450 AU
*Anyhow its an over rated lack box looks like a black witch craft novel and it heats up too. i watched a short film how to take it apart and use the drive in the pc? I might just do that. A new model released looks like a seagate like enclosure they even have a gold colour to mach the huge premium lol



