We could use some help trying to revive these chains!



  • OMG! The words are so numerous in this thread. Anyways, jack of all trades, master of none will be the effect of having too many projects at the same time.

    But I still cant install the god damn wallets. My defender just auto delete them. :(



  • @jervis really? Hmm that is huge concern as wallets shouldnt trigger any warnings!



  • @jervis I'm running Qora, KoreCoin and Quotient, I didnt have any warnings from my defender or antivirus, really strange what you're having :/



  • runnin' 2 qora full nodes myself. crow helped me set the wallets up as nodes because i had no idea what the fuck i was doing :)



  • @jervis Yeah that is quite strange... I already set up all the wallets in 3 PC's and none of them raised any red flags of nothing xS

    Just to make sure the defender you are talking is the Windows Defender? I have this turned off on my Windows so this can be where we are in a different page idk...

    Regarding the number of words on this post: You already know me, when i intend to explain something in english things get messy so usually i use a lot of words to say not much LOL

    Regarding the "jack of all trades, master of none" i don't agree because it's always very good to have a lot of applications for something we are creating and i would agree with you if it was only the same people working in all but there is not... There is different teams working on all this different things! It's possible that some dev's are working in multiple projects but i think the core of each project have different dev's!

    EDIT: I am running all the 5 wallets in 2 different PC's!



  • yeah, it's windows defender. :(



  • @gpedro if your using windows 10 you cant turn off windows defender :) yo only think you turned it off but windows just turns it back on in couple minutes.



  • @LithStud I am on Windows 10 and it has my Windows defender turned off... Here is how to do it: http://www.windowscentral.com/how-permanently-disable-windows-defender-windows-10



  • If Burst had the size, the funds, the developpers and the time to be working on this kind of side projects I would totally agree with you @gpedro but I feel that at least for now the time and energy spent on those coins would be better used in Burst-related work.



  • @Gadrah_ agree with you mate!
    Burst still have to grow



  • @BURSTguy @Gadrah_ @ccminer I feel your concerns guys but I just want to say that this other coins were not taken over recently, this happened months ago and I don't think the Team is wasting resources in this other coins because in reality we earned more Dev's with this taken overs because when this coins were taken over, Dev's come with it!
    For example with the KORE coin, the KORE Team started working with the BURST Team and with the QORA Team. So basically taken over this coins allowed the Team to have more Dev's working with it.

    I don't think that the BURST Team is wasting resources in this other projects in any way...

    The only thing that is new in this coins working within BURST is that someone (me and mikemike) asked for some help of the community in order for reviving this chains because one of them was almost lost last week and all the others had almost no peers, and now idk what to call this initiative we had, because some of you guys don't look happy for this inittiative but by other side some people helped and this chains are now with some more peers...

    You guys didn't seemed troubled when @crowetic announced this partnerships some months ago, and i think you are forgetting that the BURST Team is a collaborative effort of a bunch of Development Teams that work inside Burst and inside their own projects!

    Let me give you guys a pratical example:
    @ccminer you developped the ccminer right?
    Imagine you were still developing the ccminer software and someone on the BURST Team approach you in order for you to work with us... If you accept it doesn't make any sense that someone here asked you for put your project on holding to work for the Team right?
    But now imagine you were stucked with the ccminer development and some other Dev in the Team had a way for you solve it, could it be by coding some lines or just by sharing his idea with you, you would not enjoy that help?
    To this is called collaborative effort, not wasting resources of the Team in order for you to finish your development right?
    At least this is how I look at this collaborations...

    Thanks for the ones that helped with this and hope you guys understand my opinion and that i can't speak for the Team, i just can speak for me and about how i feel about this projects!

    EDIT: Further insight by @MikeMike :https://forums.burst-team.us/topic/2485/we-could-use-some-help-trying-to-revive-these-chains/29



  • @gpedro, well said !!



  • @Focus Thanks xD



  • @BURSTguy I could not have said it better, thanks.



  • @BURSTguy I am a bit more technician than you maybe.
    But I agree with you 100%
    too much QORA recently even in bitcointalk BURST thread, the last announcements were related to QORA, and honestly I could not care less



  • @gpedro

    Thanks gpedro for putting this forum page together.
    Awesome to be the beneficiary (for a change) of our Awesome BURST/KORE Team!
    I am truly impressed and grateful of the response and sincere interest and efforts to help.
    :-)
    The last 7 months all these other coins were on the back burner awaiting honorable Coders while we all focused on BURST/QORA while I interviewed dozens of new Coders to find the two needed to restart these other coins projects.

    I welcome and see there are a few posts of concerns over these other coins and what that could mean for BURST/QORA and funding etc.and decided to include the answers to them in this one post.

    Since I stay in the background I think it best to give a bit of history and introduction since I have been approached by people who have
    joined the AltTech chat and some newcomers to the Team who signed the NDA and asked me what else I do besides be a greeter to those who join the chat and Team. I want to assure everyone associated and invested into BURST and QORA and the future they will bring that I have done nothing but be of a support to these two coins, mainly BURST,... and helped in every conceivable way I could to further them working with and beside Crowetic.
    Feel free to ask Crow anything you wish concerning my and the KORE Team's involvement.

    Recently I have been told what I do is in the Executive end of things. I dont like that position nor word so will just say what I do.
    I am an idea person, problem solver, vet potential Coders and Team Members, organize, direct skill sets to projects, work with talented graphics people on graphics, work with talented coders on websites and forums, try my hand adjusting code, try to help people with issues, do damage control, delegate People resources etc. am a watchdog for our end goals are some of the things I try to be of help in and frankly things are moving so fast with the further growing of Our Team with the collaboration of yet more Teams with their respective coins by Crow, it is hard to keep track of all the additional coins and projects and People which at this time I cannot mention.
    The point is I can't even keep track so don't blame people not knowing who I am and what I do.
    Hence, I drafted a Loyal Team Member a few weeks ago who will be organizing our vast assets in people, their skill sets, projects and coins they are working on etc.
    and gave them a starting template to expand on. Many will soon be made aware via a questionnaire and look forward to this great aid to Crow and our projects.
    Last month I was in CA and drove 9 hours to visit Crowetic in Reno for a few days.
    The reason I visited is to evaluate my potential move to Reno to support the projects we all brought to the table.
    Frankly, I cannot wait to get out there! I was supposed to move in August but need to tie things up here with my Business I had for over 20 years.
    BURST, QORA, KORE, VIOR, XQN, GLOBE are the current "publicly known coins" list and there are many projects attached to them all.
    Since the KORE Team asked Crowetic to join the KORE Team, collaborate on all our combined projects and sign the NDA
    our main focus was on BURST and QORA for multiple evident reasons and some which I cannot mention. Only some on the Teams that signed the NDA are aware of what they are and still hope they will be integrated some time in the future.
    Soon after Crowetic signed the NDA, agree we all work together where possible for the benefit of all our projects, potential merger of tech and ideas and even the giving over of certain ideas, planned businesses and tech to Crow as he is in a position to be the public representation of them and the merger of all our connections make it a good fit, the BURST Team seemed to be in a revival so we all mainly focused there. Another reason is BURST/QORA are in different languages so there is not much any Devs can do for our other coins and frankly nor do I want them if they dont have the time since BURST/QORA are first on the list of priorities.
    The KORE Team brought many people into the BURST Community and helped in many ways, myself included.
    The combining of the KORE Team project of AltTech/GLOBE and Crowetic's ideas and abilities birthed the AltTech Multiverse.
    Soon you will see how this collaborative effort will involve all our coins and many others that are not ours.
    The NDA and collaborative efforts is not forced, does not mean the people running those Teams and coins lose control or are forced to work on any projects or coins they do not want to.

    Crow and I had many meetings on the future of Crypto and where we would all like to see it and quickly realized
    there can be no, "one coin to rule them all" and there will be multiple businesses attached to various crypto currencies/block chain tech.
    We all realize many alts are forming Teams of Collaboration and we all view this as vital and necessary to work together.
    What is different with those on all our Teams is for the most part, we all have the same honorable intentions and end goals
    unlike what we saw "and still see" since the inception of alt coins.
    Make no mistake, this is an uphill battle band surely worth the effort! In time people will see that and realize we are not of the scam coin P&D crowd.
    All our projects are the real deal and living up to our promises, some made years ago is vital in proving who we are and what we intend to do.
    The reason for some of these coins to exist is to create viable businesses to provide a stream of funding for all our other coins and projects,
    BURST/QORA and tech included...
    We have deliberately kept KORE, VIOR, XQN and GLOBE off the radar but there is obtainable evidence of tech attached to them if you spend the time to do the research.
    We realize this was detrimental to the coins and Communities. I have always kept in touch with them letting them know there is a future
    and when we come through it will be a testament to who we are and wen we say something we mean it. IT is now time to start rebuilding these other coins Communities and We/Crow included, appreciate all your incredible help! :-)

    XQN had its Dev IW/Incognitoworker need to step aside due to serious health problems and Family obligations so we have rebuilt the XQN Team recently and are
    moving ahead with what we can add to the road map and possibly still include from the projects IW brought to the table. We are leaving the door open for IW.
    VIOR is to be an LLC VoIP Gateway service to provide the needed gateway for all our coins wallets to make calls to regular phone numbers. Not just wallet to wallet addresses.
    KORE is centered around security and privacy in its VoIP wallet to wallet calling, Internet, phone, .NET OS and other projects not able to mention.
    GLOBE is another company that is centered around a business building/collaborative one stop shop in the formation of the AltTech Multiverse.
    We have been using a portion of the AltTech Multiverse in the chat versions that will continue to evolve till where we want it to be.
    https://alttech.chat/alttech/channels/town-square

    What I should make clear at this point what I am asking is for help in reviving the network and chain strength by staking them 24/7 for the foreseeable future. Also for the help to "reason with Bittrex" to have VIOR opened up for trading again and for GLOBE to be relisted by submitting tickets and carrying on a conversation with them. I am not asking people get behind these coins and projects. They have been put on the back burner for awhile. I am doing all I can to find the Coders we need and it looks like I am getting close to finding them but I have been at this point many times. In time, Coder dependent, these projects/coins will prove themselves and if anyone at any time does their Due Diligence and/or has the time, capability or desire to help in any other way in the future they can decide to get involved to whatever extent they can. I just would like to provide more a basis and solid foundation first, such as new threads denoting a clean break from the old Devs, New OP pages and a new wallet release. These have been held back purposely due to the Coder situation described above. I hope this clears things up a little better.

    In response to @BURSTguy
    I agree fully with your perspective.
    Some answers have been addressed above...
    What I can tell you is Crow is working himself thin and needs a Team around him in an office.
    As you may be aware I intend to move to Reno to support BURST and all our coins, projects and businesses just as I have since
    Crow signed our NDA which is now the template and standard for all BURST etc collaborative efforts.
    This creates a good measure of stability and security knowing those on the Team have doxed themselves.

    It would be ludicrous for me to explain how much potential is in the wings without the funding and enough people
    with the proper skill sets and time to make them a reality so I will refrain.
    I agree with you on the decentralized nature of BURST being critical to the success but don't discount QORA
    as it has much to offer for BURST even so stay tuned.
    You are correct in that the road map/future is not set and is actually evolving weekly.
    It seems like this is a detriment but to the contrary it has been very beneficial for the future of BURST.
    In time Crow will make known the facts. What I can say is the connections and collaborations Crow, a few by me and others
    on the Teams are making even though they involve yet more Teams and coins then listed in this reply but also bring with them what is
    needed for Crow to make BURST the success he intended it to be and more.

    Investors:
    What we must do is set the record straight specially where funding is involved.
    The Team has agreed that:
    Any potential investor has the choice to say what projects they want to invest in.
    If they say BURST, then it goes to BURST only.
    Any income derived from any of our coins successes is considered for reinvestment to the next potential candidate
    that takes the least for it to achieve the goals it has.
    Crow has has many a thousand of dollars in investor funding slated specifically to BURST only and some that has
    been slated towards these other coins projects. He is living up to the contracts and his word.

    Overlap:
    What we realize is many Coins/and Teams of coins are in the pursuit of the same goals by the same and different means.
    We realize the danger of the "one coin to rule them all" approach is having all your eggs in one basket
    meaning there is a single point of failure.
    There are also many languages people code in and the potential options those code bases and assets bring.
    Where possible we will add other coins tech into BURST and the other coins and visa/versa.
    This includes the cross chain transfers and other options that benefit all involved.

    People Resources:
    I myself make it known to anyone involved in any BURST/QORA project that they come first.
    Many from the KORE Team and other of our coins Communities have and are now involved intimately
    with BURST in many ways and have been an asset to BURST.
    What it comes down to is management and that is what we are working on. A solid Core of people and Teams.
    There is a new economy emerging in crypto and BURST/QORA are at the center of it.
    It allows people people all over the world to work on any project they like when they like.
    Therefore decreasing the strain on businesses to carry employees and have access to a variety of talent.
    We still realize the need to have a dedicated Team working beside Crow in his presence.

    Our Collaborative Future:
    This is very fluid and one reason I never considered posting here about these other coins of our Teams in this BURST Forum.
    We are figuring out how to give credence to each others projects, coins and resources. We have much planned once the projects come to reality thereby alleviating peoples fears of the mention of other coins etc in each others threads etc. Till then it will be more limited as it has been. One fact that helps is whatever success one has helps all others eventually. We will not lose focus on what the Communities expect from us.

    Some of our end goals are very evident to people with insight. Most will be made aware as they become a reality
    and we are in a solid position to make them more public.

    Happy mining and staking.
    Cheers!
    :-)

    Most Sincerely,
    MikeMike

    Please Everyone, feel free to speak your mind and concerns and offer what you can to help us all change the future of Crypto!



  • @MikeMike No need to thank me for making a post hahaha

    Everyone i made @MikeMike register here in the forum in order to he give some aditional info that i didn't know if i could even share because like he said i signed the NDA myself too... Glad he could give additional explanations and gave you some more insight on how funds are managed and in what is being made in different fronts...

    Mike like i said before to you and to @crowetic , i'm here to help with what i can so anything, you know, yell for me! hahaha



  • @MikeMike Thank you very much for your insight. It is true that most of us only see the tip of the iceberg when looking at Burst, there is a lot going under the scene. Your answer allows us to see things from a different perspective and it is greatly appreciated.
    I am totally OK with having huge goals, revolutionary ideas and strong long-term vision, that is what drives those project forward. But if I can speak from my perspective of a simple Burst lover unaware of all those ultra-secret projects, I'd just say that from our position of crypto outsiders, our first concern should be to "build an incredibly strong foundation and executing from there", as @BURSTguy said.

    That being said, I know our devs are awesome and capable of great things, and I have complete faith in them. I can't wait to see what will come soon.



  • @gadrah and @BURSTguy the foundations are being built very well albeit it taking a little time, also everyone is well I would'nt say struggling but more looking to see where they fit in. Having said that Burst will allways be the main focus and nothing will change there, but also as people join they do manifest themselves in different ways and there might be some people out there that may very well be able to do work on the other coins without interfering with the main objectives being burst first and QOra second.

    You may find a lot of information and differennt views on the chat platform, I suggest for everyone to join !!



  • @Gadrah_

    It is Crow's and my main goal to "build an incredibly strong foundation and executing from there" and is actually the entire reason for our collaborative efforts.
    MM


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