95% Assets Seems Scams or Handled with Selfishness and Unmaturity is their Any Drastic Change required in Asset Exchange?
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@Hyzi0 amen
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I know that there is very little liquidity on the AE right now, which sucks if you are in a hurry to liquidate your assets. I'm hoping that this will improve in time.
But, after reading a few hundred comments about the AE and the price hike, it seems like most people are only interested in making a quick profit on the price hike, and don't care about dividends. Then why did you buy assets in the first place? You chose to part with your burstcoins in order to get a stake in someone else's business model for dividends. Holding coins and waiting for price hikes and investing into a business model are two entirely different things.
Don't get me wrong, I too would like to be able to cash out on some of my assets as I have 97 % of all my Burst holdings in assets, but it seems to me that many of you don't realize that you still hold the same stake in your assets when you keep holding them, and that you only lose value by selling them at ridiculously low prices. A long term investment, as most assets are, does not mean a few months or a year, but several years. Judging an asset as failed because of the polo pump and AE dump is not fair.
Let's look at Uniburst as an example, you can now pick up a share at 22 coins, which is almost ten times as cheap as when it was launched. This means that you will be paying ten times less burstcoins than at launch, and still get the same stake in the asset as if you bought at 220. This is because people are selling with a loss instead of keeping their stake. Of course, Burst and Bitcoin are worth more now than at launch, so it's not ten times cheaper in fiat value, but it's still a lot cheaper than what it was. Not long ago people would be raving at cheap shares, but now that you realize that you could have kept your coins and instead cash out on the price hike, you treat cheap shares as being something bad and the issuer's responsibility for some reason. The AE is an open market, so you should really be questioning the trading mentality of your fellow Bursters, or just pick up the cheap shares yourself.
Asset investors who are in it for the long run are not in deep shit, but the quick profiteers are, until liquidity can be restored. It is clear that we need to educate investors better so they can make more informed decisions before investing in assets. Many people who invest here have probably not invested in anything before in their life, so it is understandable that not everything is grasped easily.
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@keyd0s It's not about crowetic being responsible , it never was , but we (Asset Holders) are in deep mess . . Unfortunately I invested in qora too which is delisted . .I had 0.2 BTC loss in it . .
If the cheap assets are not bought , this situation will never improve.
I am just scared about the fact who is going to buy asset because people I see are not going too get involved in any mess . .
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@arnav_r Qora will be traded on Bitshares Exchange.So if you still have the coins have a look.
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This mess for an AE issuer point of view, for example my asset is on hold, I tried to expand it according to the new level of burst exchange price, so for a lower than the 10 ORIGINAL burst, and I have been literally crucified by some investors, so for life peace I removed the sell order and the whole asset is actually on hold untill the exchange price of burst will go down and I'll be able to sell for 10 again, but I don't want the burst price to goes down so, I'm in a loop S**T!!!
Other thing is that here EVERY DAY someone is looking for a drama/exposed/scammer accusation, so ..................................................................................
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@Hyzi0 hahaa i invested in ccminer1000 when it starts its good asset i too invested alot there he knows all.
Thats price of burst you are calculating per tb thats increase in burst price not tb price just take it easy you buy 1 share of 10burst when burst is 70 =700 sat ok
then sell at 1 share of 3burst when burst is 500= 1500
if we dont invest imagine that 10 burst is equal to 5000
so now if we go complex just calculate divies is that difference 3500 pershare
investers are in loss right now and i didnt point fingre on any perticular one like i told 95% 5% are doing good but you can watch forum and go through all assets you found me right max time.
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@dvndr007 but btc was cheaper then and it was about buying hardware for usd:)
You can't predict market pumps but you can predict asset return:)
Buying assets are simply good for you in long run while keeping burst can make you rich by pumps like last one or it may not:p
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@dvndr007 i will repeat myself here. This kind of thinking (what if) is flawed, either you invest or you dont. If you invest you dont get to complain but if i would of hold the coins i would of gotten more.
Same is with stocks and FIAT. You can trade FIAT or you can invest into stocks, and it happens when those who traded FIAT got more than those investing (bought low sold high).
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@Hyzi0 investors enters in right now position and we need investors now, if investors are happy here that attract more investors its simple if they found losses they leave so the question is what we are doing to attract more investors/ nothing we are just creating more worst situations you can see whats happening now a days.
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@LithStud said in 95% Assets Seems Scams or Handled with Selfishness and Unmaturity is their Any Drastic Change required in Asset Exchange?:
either you invest or you dont. If you invest you dont get to complain
hahaa you remind me of someone from other forum lolz
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@dvndr007 no idea who i go on BN to post weekly updates for my asset and thats it :P
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@LithStud said in 95% Assets Seems Scams or Handled with Selfishness and Unmaturity is their Any Drastic Change required in Asset Exchange?:
and it happens when those who traded FIAT got more than those investing
no one invest if evryone think like this
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@dvndr007 sigh you really dont know how it all works? Every kind of investement has its own dangers, and depending on how good you are you can try investing short term or you just want your money to not sit and waste you invest into something longterm. What all of that comes down to is how much you want to risk.
There is no get rich quick methods. Everything requires work.
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@LithStud investors only enter if they found profit ratio more its asset issuers deal how he give investor profit and make it happy and grow his asset!!
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@LithStud said in 95% Assets Seems Scams or Handled with Selfishness and Unmaturity is their Any Drastic Change required in Asset Exchange?:
There is no get rich quick methods. Everything requires work
Exactly everything requires smart work and smart work always paysoff thats what investors seek.
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@dvndr007 just the same you cant make everybody happy, now i am talking about my own asset only as i am most familiar of how it works :P from the very begining i told everybody its long term (heck its in my signature lol) and since its based on other altcoins its obvious dividends will vary. Now how well asset does will depend on my decisions and research (so my hard work). Now i think there were some who bought it thinking long term is (two months or so) afcourse they will be dissapointed, since for me long term is years. If investor decide to just make a quick buck he can do that maybe not the same value in BURST but still in profit, those who trully invested long term well they will keep on holding passing on this quick profit and instead trusting in getting steady dividends.
Dont forget one thing you complain about how its bad because BURST increased in price, but it might have gone down as well, then what? Do the asset issuers get to complain how its not fair? I doubt it.
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@Propagandalf said in 95% Assets Seems Scams or Handled with Selfishness and Unmaturity is their Any Drastic Change required in Asset Exchange?:
Asset investors who are in it for the long run are not in deep shit, but the quick profiteers are, until liquidity can be restored. It is clear that we need to educate investors better so they can make more informed decisions before investing in assets. Many people who invest here have probably not invested in anything before in their life, so it is understandable that not everything is grasped easily.
investment is hard earned money if any investor gives his money to someone it means he trust him he trust his words and its very big responsibility of asset issuer to prioritize that investor and keep that investment safe help him to grow his investment becoz that investor help him when issuer require that investment. that investment may be very small hard earned one cent or maybe just extra thrown cash by some rich guy.rich guy forget but that hard earned cent what issuer should care about.
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Anyone have any idea why Haitch asset not going down with increase in price etc lolz
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@dvndr007 Because those who have invested in it have decided not to sell.
It seems that you forget that normally the price of the assets after they are in the market is marked by investors who prefer to recover their investment even if prices are lowered.For example someone who has bought assets 6 months ago even if you sell now at half price will earn money, lose burst but earn dollars.
Personally with this rise I have not sold neither assets nor burst, but we have to think that not everyone thinks of burst, many invest thinking of dollars or euros, but this happens in all currencies
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I tell ya one excuse I hate to hear from Burst Mining Asset managers is the current price of Burst to fiat..
If I start a asset at 200 burst per share when 200 burst = 20cents of fiat and then six months later the price of 200 burst goes to $20.00.
One thing I'm not going to do is issue new assets at 20 Burst per share because it now only takes 20 Burst per share to equal that original share/fiat price of $0.20 per share.
What I'm going to do in order to expand my asset is issue those shares at a price of at least 200 Burst. So if I want to expand with a 8tb drive that costs $400 I would issue 20 new shares at that same 200 coins each. I think the asset managers feel like they must issue thousands of shares at a time which is not the case .
If your asset is mainly a Burst mining asset then fiat shouldn't even be a tiny little part of the equation. Burst assets need to be measured in Burst not fiat. The AE is traded with Burst not fiat. Once folks get this through their heads we will be able to move forward.The AE is so far down right now because people don't care. No one is out in the real world breaking their neck so that they can come invest in Burst assets.
Look at one of the assets that have stuck with Burst this whole time. SoCalFarm is one of the very few that has played this right.



