noob question
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@johnm A large miner is the same as a smaller miner, just more drives. When you get into > 24 Drives, that's when it starts getting interesting .....
But basically, install additional drive(s) to your system, use Disk Manager to assign it a drive letter, and format it as NTFS with a 64KB Block size, then plot/mine it.
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@haitch 64KB? guessing there's an advantage to larger blocks, less read time on multiple blocks?
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@mrgoldy Yes, a nonce is 256KB, by formatting as 64KB and using optimized plots you have (by default) 16x less read requests - the Miner can read in 64KB of nonces to process with one request.
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@haitch Thanks! I'm going to reformat/plot my 1TB tonight, and I'm getting an 8TB tomorrow so I'll be sure to 64KB that one. Probably in 100GB increments from now on, because last time my 1TB took ~12hrs to plot
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@haitch Man I wish I knew this before. Any way to check the current cluster size? I will make sure to do this with the next drives and might have to reformat the other 4 later as they are mining now.
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@mrgoldy I know it hurts - but a single 8TB file is much more efficient.
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@newsense2004 from a cmd prompt running as administror do:
fsutil fsinfo ntfsinfo <drive letter>:
The Bytes per Cluster is the cluster size:
Microsoft Windows [Version 10.0.14393]
(c) 2016 Microsoft Corporation. All rights reserved.C:\WINDOWS\system32>fsutil fsinfo ntfsinfo c:
NTFS Volume Serial Number : 0xa04ccc784ccc4aac
NTFS Version : 3.1
LFS Version : 2.0
Number Sectors : 0x000000008ba857ff
Total Clusters : 0x0000000011750aff
Free Clusters : 0x000000000c83125c
Total Reserved : 0x00000000000211fb
Bytes Per Sector : 512
Bytes Per Physical Sector : 512
Bytes Per Cluster : 4096
Bytes Per FileRecord Segment : 1024
Clusters Per FileRecord Segment : 0
Mft Valid Data Length : 0x0000000038700000
Mft Start Lcn : 0x00000000000c0000
Mft2 Start Lcn : 0x0000000000000002
Mft Zone Start : 0x0000000003b72380
Mft Zone End : 0x0000000003b7db80
Max Device Trim Extent Count : 256
Max Device Trim Byte Count : 0xffffffff
Max Volume Trim Extent Count : 62
Max Volume Trim Byte Count : 0x40000000
Resource Manager Identifier : D274D079-9AA3-11E5-BC9B-E1F56070F275
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@haitch Mine says 4096 is that what I want?
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@newsense2004 No, you want 65536. If the drive is already plotted though, I don't know if I'd replot - 64KB is optimal, but replotting may not be worth the time the drive is not available for mining. Future drives though, format as 64KB
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@haitch Not what I wanted to hear but better to learn now so thank you. Once I get a lot bigger I can probably replot one at a time without anyone caring especially if I get a second plotter and replot while plotting a new drive.
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@haitch thanks for the info.... i guess the next question how on earth do you go from 1 external hard drive to 24 :) ... i used to a laptop with a single usd storage device.... wouldnt have a clue how to set up a system with more than that
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@johnm I don't use externals, but to do a large number of external USB drives, you need USB Hubs - I believe the max recommended drive per hub is 4 drives. You'll also need PCI-E to USB 3.0 add in cards - and make sure that the card has a separate controller per port, not one controller for all ports.
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@haitch just started plotting 1 file on my 8TB with 2 cores so I can continue working. Is there a way to determine how long it will take based on the numbers it's cranking thru?
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@mrgoldy At around 14K nonce/min for plotting speed - it'll take about 2 days.
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@haitch Ouch! I'm at 3500nonces/min, I think I'll quit the process and start again at 3 or 4 cores.
Can you change the amount of cores while it's in process? Say I want to run 8 cores at night, and then when I start work, take it down to 3 or 4 cores.
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@mrgoldy The xplotter process is restartable and will resume where you ended it, so yes - you can run it with X threads during the day and Y threads overnight. In the xplotter command you need to specify the starting nonce and number of nonces: eg:
XPlotter_avx.exe -id 13919803089879865906 -sn 286096624 -n 30516232 -t <threads> -path <directory> -mem <memory>G
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@haitch if i was to buy a dedicated machine for mining, be it a laptop/desktop....what minimum specs would i need?
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@johnm the minimum specs I would recommend would be anything built after 2014. Ideally a 64 bit processor and operating system. Plotters use 64 bit, however some miners do not. Mining only would be ideal on pre 2014 models as i have done in the past with CPU miners.
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@ZapbuzZ so maybe a completely obvious question but would i not be plotting/mining on the same machine? so im a bit confused on your recommend anything after 2014 but mining being ideal in pre 2014 models....
as for the processor so ones its 64 bit im good to go?.... no need to have minimum i5 for example?
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the older the machine the slower it plots. It takes me 5 days to plot 8tb wth usb3 external on AMD FM2+ @3200Mhz But some people here have reported that the new core i7 intel can do the same in just 2 days. I have found older hardware or low end spec systems are great for mining. Its basically how long are you willing to wait vs your wallet size. Slower uses less energy and it doesn't take any more than say a 1ghz 64bit processor to mine. I say such that I like to use my astest plotting machine to play video games and surf the net so i can shut it down and use my old faithful to mine with less energy.
