Just experienced my first real censorship in crypto...



  • @gpedro said in Just experienced my first real censorship in crypto...:

    I don't worship Adam, actually he is the person i less respect in there and i wasn't banned so far but i never gave them reasons to ban me as far as i know...

    I wish you luck, that was the line I was trying to tread. It's all too easy to slip up, and remember it's not just what you say over there but also what you say here, and for all I know what you are thinking of saying. :-)

    Anyway enough idle chit chat, don't want to give the wrong impression to people looking for a Forum that is up and running. Back to deciding if now is the time to cash out on MTMG or if it has some more legs? @Gadrah see you there........

    Rich



  • @RichBC I suggest we go back to Who is Mr Whale and general Asset Trading Discussion Thread for this matter :)



  • Site still down on my end too. Maybe they unplugged to see what happens with these rising prices. Plotting their exit.

    Thanks for the screen shot Rich.



  • @RichBC LOL are you saying that he will ban me just for what i think of him?
    I don't but if he does and try to discredit me, it only gets their censorships to a whole new level...

    I never attack them with anything, just stated my opinion as i stated some posts above, but if they ban and discredit me for that (what didn't happened so far) let's just say i will make sure everyone knows exactly why i was banned aswell as others not deserved bans...

    I was civil everytime i spoke of someone and i think no one can really say the same from him!

    He is the person i less respect and trust in there and i never hided that but i never disrespected him or someone else... That is part of the reason i never holded an asset managed by him, neither will until i am sure he is not in here for profit but for the community (and that is something that will most likely never happen, even if i am losing good trading opportunitys, i just don't care, i prefer to have a bird in my hand than 2 flying around xD)...



  • @gpedro Man, I was banned and got all my posts removed for saying that his steam-verification registration for BN didn't cause pump in price;)
    You can literaly be banned for anything so lets just stop wasting our time on them^^ He made my day with his post anyways so at least he was good for that ^^



  • @gpedro That's exactly how I got banned: violation of "Rule #5: Do not insult, degrade or post hateful posts about BURST Nation on any other sites you use, if you are found doing so, you will be banned instantly." Apparently my OP in this thread qualified.

    Indeed it's blatant censorship, and Adam fully admitted so. Be very careful with any words with a negative connotation on them if you want to keep your account, it seems he has rather thin skin.


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    @gpedro I incredibly politely corrected some statements Adam made about me. Banned, post deleted - "such negativity .....:"



  • @keyd0s said in Just experienced my first real censorship in crypto...:

    Is he really just censoring information to appease his 'people' that everyone actually thinks his asset's are great? they're not, the people investing in it are great. really burstnation with adam on top is moving more and more towards some kind of totalitarian rule.

    Truly though, it's almost a cult-like following! I wish Crow would grow a pair and put Adam in his place. Just because he gambles well doesn't give him the right to disrupt an entire community in the way he's doing (and it really seems to be coming from Adam's side of the "Admin box", I've never had any issues talking with Crow or asking questions/making suggestions).

    One of the main proponents of cryptocurrencies is their resistance to censorship. In my 4+ years in crypto, I've never been treated like I was at BN. I really hope others at BN notice what is being pulled there, and don't blindly follow the constant stream of promises of riches.

    @AdamGuerbuez If you're truly so confident in the performance of your assets/gambling habits, why not let others voice their opinions or make criticisms (especially on an entirely separate site!!)?



  • @IncludeBeer I did not insult, degraded or posted hatefull things about no one neither BurstNation. I just said my opinion... I challenge you to PM me one thing i said that brakes that or any other rule...

    Saying that i don't trust him is not insult, degrade or post hatefull stuff... If i was trying to convince someone to not trust him, or call him or someone else nasty stuff, that would be a completely different story, but that didn't happened.

    I didn't attacked anyone either, i just spoke how i feel about him and that don't brakes any rule, i just checked right now...



  • @haitch said in Just experienced my first real censorship in crypto...:

    @gpedro I incredibly politely corrected some statements Adam made about me. Banned, post deleted - "such negativity .....:"

    Yeah that was a rule in the begining i guess, but it's not in the list anymore... I guess it was too censorship and someone made him realize he was becoming a dictactor...

    Now what i just said in the above posts can potencially made them change the rules in the future to make people not to state their opinions if they are negative but my posts are already posted and if they change their rules, my posts are prior to it, if they ban me for that they will be shotting themselfs in the foot because they will be back to the completely totalitary system of "if it's negative is reason for ban", and that leads to the main questions, "Who decides if it's negative or not? Adam? So dictactor path, right?"...

    I can understand if people talk negative shit about BurstNation it can lead to ban but Adam is not BurstNation, BurstNation is a community and i stated in previous posts how amazing is a lot of people over there... I just don't like or trust the guy, due to a lot of things and to thousands of decisions he made, but i don't even stated why exactly i don't like him because i would most likely cross that line i can't cross and then you all know what would happen, but if someone want to know those reasons feel free to PM me and i will explain them with pleasure...

    I could say more but i don't want to continue this conversation, i'm getting tired of all this talk and will head to bed in a bit... If someone wants to continue it, feel free, i will reply tomorrow ;D



  • @gpedro Ya man, I'm completely with you! No, I don't think at all such things are degrading or hateful. We should all be able to voice opinions. Apparently though, my OP here was enough to violate a rule. :/


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    @gpedro I don't want a fight with them, or anyone that follows them.

    My only comment is that they are untrustworthy *****. Crow and Focus were admins on this site, I gave Focus a 250,000 Burst donation for Burst4All to pay out as a bonus. Crows Busteam gets it revenue from 100% of my pool fees. Then overnight - I'm an asshole, my site sucks. My servers are pathetic, my 660,000 Burst investment in Burst4All is nullified because I was given some other shares, the shares I bought for US$1,500 will not be replaced with the new shares, then a stream of un-provable slurs. Focus seems to like me when I donate to his pool. But after stabbing me in the back and launching a new, totalitarian site , I'm now someone who should be hated by the whole community.

    Enough is enough - I've not responded to any of Focus's or the other BN members, now I will

    I want to keep my post PG-14, so I'm holding my tongue, but I'd treat any interaction or asset from them as highly radioactive.

    As for Adams "asset" that is based on his gambling - the house always has an edge. Either Adam is going to flame out, or the Casino will go bankrupt. In either case , the asset" will stop paying.

    End of Story.



  • @haitch said in Just experienced my first real censorship in crypto...:

    As for Adams "asset" that is based on his gambling - the house always has an edge. Either Adam is going to flame out, or the Casino will go bankrupt. In either case , the asset" will stop paying.

    Ya...after watching this video of him:

    , I'm now waiting for a good time to sell off mtmgaming. I simply don't trust my Burst with him after doing more research. :(


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    @IncludeBeer a) I' won't watch any Adam videos
    b) Either the gambler loses (destroying the asset), or the casino loses and declares bankruptcy- either way, the revenue stream stops. , and investors get even more screwed than they did with the share replacement

    Who the hell thought investing in the bankroll of a gambler was a sane idea ?



  • @haitch lol well...the Burst Casino did indeed go bankrupt once already!



  • The buy orders dried up on the OGBurst. I'd hate to be someone holding a few thousand shares and needing to liquidate. Not Gon get me thing out that price of chit asset.


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    @IncludeBeer I''m not following it - but it seems the investor fund are used for his betting

    There is a built in house advantage - you're expect'd to lose.I've not being following the Casino - but payroll/potential pay off - is bad



  • well since it is inevitable of me getting banned eventually anyways ... i was just over there and they have plenty to say about you @haitch ... what i don't get is i do not see the type of negativity coming from this side... i see they are showing tons of facts for support, and they are for sure marketing... but its like MLM referrals, are these new ppl here to stay? or listening to any hype, don't get what they expect and gone?

    haitch your problems with them are yours. not the rest of ours and im sure you agree.... its 2017 where everyone has an opinion.... sucks but its true, facebook can be thanked for this i think. They have to or even You, understand that not everyone is going to agree with each other nowadays.... we are either in BURST for long haul or not.

    it worries me when i have been putting $$ into this project and i try to get others and POOF Adams's name is splattered all over as the face of facebook and 1st thing they do is google his name. i have nothing personally against him but his reputation and videos like above are NOT what ppl want to see when they invest hard earned money



  • @haitch said in Just experienced my first real censorship in crypto...:

    But after stabbing me in the back and launching a new, totalitarian site , I'm now someone who should be hated by the whole community.

    As I see it, you stabbed them. This is clearly seen in the Youtube videos. They have proof.

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  • So.. This was my comment and 'freedom of speech'...

    Really... You are so obsessive bringing shit to the door all the time, trying to make yourself look like a good person, 'a legend' and someone to look up to yes there's never been more division in what BUST stands for since you came along. Yes some may be 2 faced, many are blind to truths but we are one coin. Stop this bullshit with trying to pick out 'what he says, what he does', 'mines better than yours' child playground crap, You're obsessed with it and you just think this place is better than the other, utter nonsense. The other place can talk freely about anyone, even this place and will NEVER get censored with the childish games you play here. We use the internet and decentralized currencies for freedom, not some scam artist trying to make himself look like a good guy who dictates what people can or cannot do, You're a joke, a liar and a thief.

    Further down the comments i see this posted by Adam....

    Vneck wrote:
    Did theduuude get banned for his comments or something?
    Indeed, I have had complaints about that idiot now for the past two weeks, tonight he just went full out idiot and is now gone for good.

    I have not been logged into the forum or posted anything for at least 6 or 7 weeks...

    Would this guy lie to himself and believe it ? What a joke.

    Sorry for keep bringing up this shit and keeping the tensions going but how can people be so blind when is the the bane of the BURST community, it really does frustrate me.


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