[ANN] Futuros
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@babelis i hope u buyback the shares for 100 burst? For me and my asset its not possible to get the roi in usd. Cuz u garanted a 5% monthly. Many ppl where concerned about that and u always told us u guys can cover that. And now u can't. For me thats a massive problem.
I really beleve in this asset but i need to protect my shareholders aswell. And i can't hold ur shares if u evaluate every share with 0.25. At the mom we are at 0.28 per 100 burst. So how is this fair?
I would mention u put the price per share between 0.30 and 0.40 i know ur assets will be more expensive but u also get moore money to invest.
Or u guys put more money from the assetsales into burst minig so u can cover the flactuation of burst better.
Im really not a fan of the usd pricing cuz i invested burst in ur asset and not usd
Im sorry to say that but i need to, have a nice day
Greez harry
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@babelis I understand your point,but if the price decreases people will get more in burst but same value in btc. Everyone is free to just keep their burst coins if they want to profit(..or lose) from the burst price fluctuations. At BurstOcean we are working hard to increase the dividends over time even if no assets are being sold.
Moreover if burst price increases 10x the assets value will automatically increase as well.
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How is this fair? Some people bought shares for 0.15$ another bought for 0.20$/0.25$(max) we have paid weekly Roi to all of them, and we offer to buyback them for 0.25$, I don't see anything unfair here.
We understand that you could make 10% more with the burst price increase, but we offer stable and guaranteed 10% maybe in longer time period...
We told people that we can guarantee them 5% monthly roi, but we didn't tell them this ROI will be in burst, of course, it can't be, because we are earning profits basically in $, sorry, maybe we could come with this earlier
But stilĺ, the main reason why we are doing this, are the future investors and their returns.
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In my opinion Burst is still way undervalued and will go higher...
Yes, the asset value will increase, the first people who invested will be getting their roi and also profits from burst price movements... but what about the new people who want to invest? It's just a bit unfair and it can lead to decrease in invested money into your and also our asset
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its not usd its about burst and sure some ppl bought for 0,15 the ppl who beleve in u at first, with just a promise as return.
so i will get 81 burst per share atm? and u have buyorders at 91 dont get that sry.
for me it was the mayor reason to chose this asset coz u have a that 5%, and now u change the rules in the middle of the game?
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@babelis I have to agree with harrygon on this one. Up to this point it was ROI in burst and that's why @harrygon invested in your asset. While you changed your rules you have to provide him his full refund and that's only fair.
Just to change the sittuation a bit think about it: Harrygon runs asset that will buy back all the assets @150%. So if what you guys are doing is fair he can say as well: when I released my asset burst was 3 times lower so I will give you back 150% in usd from what you paid. so insted of returning everyone 15 burst he would pay 7.5.
Sure everyone would profit from it and he probably would get new investors in usd as base but this would be simply different asset not something that ppl bought in.
I don't understand why latecomers should be treated as early investors in first place but if that is what you want to do, you should probably liquidate this asset and start over or give everyone opportunity to vote/sell without lost and srsly that's only fair.
Saying this I don't want you to lose money in this project to benefit us. I simply think that if you guys can't pay this stable ROI in burst it should have been handled differently. I'm sure everyone would agree for something like: "if burst reaches market cap 10kk$ ROI will be lowered to 0.75% etc at least for time while x number of assets is sold". This would be fair move as every investor knows that it's gpu mining and not burst directly.
I know You guys work hard and want what's best for everyone but it's normal that late investors pay more. It's same as if you bought BTC in 2009.
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@babelis and now as i try to minimize the loss, u undercutt me with a lousy 400 shares?
are u serious. after all i've done for u
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@babelis said in [ANN] Futuros:
In my opinion Burst is still way undervalued and will go higher...
Yes, the asset value will increase, the first people who invested will be getting their roi and also profits from burst price movements... but what about the new people who want to invest? It's just a bit unfair and it can lead to decrease in invested money into your and also our assetYou know how is that saying: "The early bird catches the worm".
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@chrispop said in [ANN] Futuros:
You know how is that saying: "The early bird catches the worm".
But the second mouse get's the cheese ;)
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Sorry a bit late dividends because of poloniex lag
Assets sold - 7185.3 * share price - 0.25$ = 1796.325$ ---> weekly ROI 1.32% = 23.71149$ = 6239 BURST
Futuros (1605211475111316015) Total found assets: 1000000, Assets to be distributed: 7185.3 Summary of proposed distribution of 6239BURST to 46 Based on asset holders at timestamp 86514508 (Sun, 21 Aug 2016 19:48:28 GMT) ---------------------- Number of assets, Account, Payout amount 4100.2, BURST-USNH-DUG5-YYTW-EXPKA, 3560.20594826 1500, BURST-5LW6-657H-WXHL-49BCP, 1302.45083713 562, BURST-RJSG-YUGZ-W8HJ-5DYAK, 487.98491364 310, BURST-NGGP-LZ2G-BPC2-8DKGE, 269.17317301 298, BURST-X724-7N6K-RQA7-866M6, 258.75356631 200, BURST-44FY-YB7W-BDCJ-32ECU, 173.66011162 72.3, BURST-L4BJ-LLHL-S8UB-HWXZV, 62.77813035 50.1, BURST-NKUQ-999W-CV88-2LARZ, 43.50185796 25, BURST-4GT7-QLA2-FLDA-44EMT, 21.70751395 10, BURST-9UCW-N7RK-ZNNN-HQ3B4, 8.68300558 10, BURST-4WAN-VXS8-Q9SY-B3F3D, 8.68300558 9, BURST-HTFF-7PFC-5PNF-7E884, 7.81470502 6, BURST-9B4U-RNBF-X4AR-BHWEH, 5.20980335 5.1, BURST-M3VQ-8YBL-VET6-BF4F2, 4.42833285 5, BURST-5YBX-W97K-PEHB-C4XPX, 4.34150279 3, BURST-MYVV-Z3W6-6JXT-FDE6T, 2.60490167 2.3, BURST-D6NX-Q5KG-5UZ7-A2LLV, 1.99709128 2.1, BURST-RD3G-FELL-GJND-4NQW3, 1.82343117 2, BURST-K6VZ-WS7K-2FTP-HMUW6, 1.73660112 2, BURST-JJGJ-UXYK-DWM7-7RB5X, 1.73660112 1, BURST-N6MK-YHKS-NLVR-HMHLV, 0.86830056 1, BURST-WWA9-CMQJ-ZLRD-DLUUY, 0.86830056 1, BURST-MU3B-89RM-YYSW-9F8D5, 0.86830056 1, BURST-84BD-SN8K-8ET6-HRJN7, 0.86830056 1, BURST-YQFX-X5K7-UCER-8SMMW, 0.86830056 1, BURST-4FWQ-85G6-EHQQ-6T27Z, 0.86830056 1, BURST-E2U2-JYZ9-XSDC-6NGDF, 0.86830056 1, BURST-HEES-AYVF-MTK6-FVYBR, 0.86830056 1, BURST-BRUQ-MY7L-UTL3-FH3AX, 0.86830056 0.3, BURST-2T9H-6DPY-7TQH-B5W7Y, 0.26049017 0.2, BURST-M2F3-AQ8V-5VRD-3BPWW, 0.17366011 0.2, BURST-ZAJT-EYMU-LPUL-9TP4V, 0.17366011 0.2, BURST-NNK7-5EKB-49CK-HN9SG, 0.17366011 0.1, BURST-QYVC-NLY4-6M5Q-DD5KT, 0.08683006 0.1, BURST-UDK7-D5Y3-MR94-9UQS9, 0.08683006 0.1, BURST-4FM8-2MJ5-NL29-59A6S, 0.08683006 0.1, BURST-DGDQ-GN55-B7F3-GE3TH, 0.08683006 0.1, BURST-LACW-VZ2A-YXA4-36VYU, 0.08683006 0.1, BURST-KZQV-7L7K-89K6-HXFGP, 0.08683006 0.1, BURST-K48W-F6TF-LQJW-FHR6A, 0.08683006 0.1, BURST-4CTH-XEGM-5GXG-CYEE9, 0.08683006 0.1, BURST-8PXZ-YZPN-8GBV-EUXMB, 0.08683006 0.1, BURST-VEFU-NW9C-BK3S-4X297, 0.08683006 0.1, BURST-YWAX-PYAA-XX5G-D9JPP, 0.08683006 0.1, BURST-J7U6-TV88-DJX3-9BYB4, 0.08683006 0.1, BURST-FK9X-CMV2-4Q7Q-C4P4S, 0.08683006
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@babelis maybe u give us some infs about the buyback?
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Wow you decrease your sell order into 68 Burst. What happen? No information about this?
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@bandarfjb read above😊 im just pissed atm
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@harrygon said in [ANN] Futuros:
@bandarfjb read above😊 im just pissed atm
Huh. Luckily I never bought this asset. Decreasing sell order price without any prior notice to investor is very not good movement.
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@bandarfjb jep really lucky but this guys don't know me they will loose much moore than they gain i can be a real asshole if i need to. But i hate it
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@harrygon said in [ANN] Futuros:
@bandarfjb jep really lucky but this guys don't know me they will loose much moore than they gain i can be a real asshole if i need to. But i hate it
Now we just wait for his response.
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@bandarfjb like the last 3 days 😑
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@harrygon said in [ANN] Futuros:
Don't buy this asset guys. I lost around 100k in burst plus weekly 3k. Because this guys cant calculate and lie to their shareholders just to make a few bugs. talking about cover losses with their own money and can't even buy a few shares back from the guys they fooled. I think they will give u a 1.25% calculated in jen next time.
Well i would be happy with a reply but not even thats possible. May ur scared after making me angry. I lost around 400 usd in ur asset. This is nothing moore than a scam to me. May just 1/2 scam but still a scam u let ppl bleed for ur misstakes an thats just really cheapIm done harry
Ok first thing, you haven't lost anything until you sell your shares, that's your choice, you can continue to earn weekly. I don't really understand you, you seem like a greedy person, if you want to earn from market speculations why you just don't keep your burst in wallet? Second thing, we have never lied, we told people that the ROI will be 5%, that's true but not in Burst (anyone who thinks logically knows that it can't be in Burst) we already said our sorry for not mentioning it before . The buyback will be probably this Wednesday because it's not easy to get 1800$ together as you may think
And please don't advise people what to buy or not... Right now this asset is the best choice for people who want stable and guaranteed evaluation with the highest roi between assets and this is true for all investors not only those who will buy the shares in the beginning.
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@harrygon @babelis I can see both sides of the issue. Yes I understand that the asset is no longer paying 5% of the Burst you invested, however since the asset doesn't generate its revenue in Burst but instead converts to Burst to payout, you can't look at the Burst investment. To compare different alts you need a common denominator, and for alts it's the USD. @harrygon if you look at the USD cost of your investment at the time you should still be getting the 5% return on your investment. It's just with the increase on the price of Burst, it appears less than you were receiving.
Likewise the price decrease, a share now should be costing you around the same USD as it did when you initially purchased them, and if you choose to sell you'll get back approximately the same USD value as when you purchased.
I haven't done the math yet to fully confirm the above, but I believe it to be true and will be continuing to invest in this asset.




