[CAUTION] BTCDragon Asset
-
@ccminer I won't give up, just very tired, stressed, upset and nearly got electricuted..so all in all was a crap day... i won't giveup.. Advice to everyone, never make rash decisions when tired or stressed..
-
@qibucks Hopefully your day has improved ......
-
@haitch Thanks to your kindness and generosity, you gave me a lot of hope again... and I will get back all my assets, eventually.. I believe we need give people a chance, sometimes FUD causes whale manipulations and people like me to make stupid decisions..I am first to admit that..I can be very stupid, when tired or stressed..
-
This post is deleted!
-
@croydan1 Ok there is no double talk mate, and as i have stated ME LordzS 100% owner Flash is a coder and the only reason why it states him as a owner is that for coding purposes he needs access to certain areas , i can revoke this at anytime, he has absolutely nothing to do with the running or access to any funds or that, so dont involve him in this , he is hired , paid for his services . he only has access to the areas that i have approved and allow him access to .
-
This post is deleted!
-
I believe in this asset, even though i stupidly reacted t NEWS and market panic, I am slowly buying mine all back even if it means i paying the price for my mistakes.
-
@qibucks Before buying back in it's probably best to wait a few days and let the dust settle. From the looks of things this could go either way.
-
OK there is a lot of stuff here, a lot of it difficult to understand and follow, so I'm hoping that when the dust has settled that we can be given simple to understand answers to these questions from above?
Could you also please summarise the total revenue raised from the sale of assets sold so far, and where that money has been used or is planned to be used in the future?
Can you confirm to what degree profit from the casino has been able to fund the Dividend payments?
@Bitdv said in [CAUTION] BTCDragon Asset:
And yes i have been putting a ledger together of all incomings and outgoings as it was requested by another member and as soon as i have that completed I will post those .
So to stick my neck out here I think this is a good Asset and has a great future. I am concerned about the Total Money that has been raised and that it is being used in the Shareholders best interest. I hope that answers to the above will set my mind at rest?
I think it unfortunate that an "attack" was made on this Asset when the Asset Holder was asleep and would have preferred it if the questions had just been made in the Asset thread with an opportunity for @bitdv to answer them in the way he is now.
Finally in case anyone is interested I did sell a large chunk of my shares when the s**t hit the fan, but later bought quarter of them back in the dip after I had read the OP a bit more carefully.
Rich
-
@RichBC said in [CAUTION] BTCDragon Asset:
I think it unfortunate that an "attack" was made on this Asset when the Asset Holder was asleep and would have preferred it if the questions had just been made in the Asset thread with an opportunity for @bitdv to answer them in the way he is now.
Rich
ice burst said that he tried previously to get these questions answered, this thread wasn't really an "attack" as such but more raising his concerns. he even said "but my last set of questions were not answered directly and I was provided what I would consider a "non-answer" in an attempt to dodge the original questions." so i can understand why he made the post
he raised his concerns to get the comunity's input people having kneejerk reactions to this is understandable considering how often we have a scammer come along. he was only really looking out for the community here
-
@Lexicon I still think it would have been more appropriate to have just raised the questions in the Asset thread, posting if necessary the Dialog to enable us to make a judgement and for Bitdv to be answering them against a calmer backdrop.
If Bitdv was a scammer he would have cut and run long ago.
Rich
-
@RichBC not necessarily we had a recent case where someone who was a good long standing of the forums up and run (jervis - news asset pool)
its something ive learned is that you never truly know someone and an example of this is a guy i went to school with, used to be my best friend turned out to be a pedophile offering to share his unborn kid to the internet. this news shocked me as the guy was a straight up student. got A's in most of his exams and went on to study forensic science.
albeit we are only human and we make mistakes. at the time he was probably worried and didn't want to post it in the asset thread due to the risk that more investors would dump due to the news as that would notify every investor that posted on the asset thread.. could of made the situation worse.
its easy for one person to say this is how things should be done but everyone isnt the same. each person does things differently.
-
@Lexicon Yes I lost money on NEWS too, had early on several Chat's with jervis and he was low down / not on my Assets to be worried about list.
OK no need for us to agree or disagree on what has been done, the harm or good has been done. Let's now just push to get clear and simple answers to the outstanding questions.
Rich
-
The only way I know to stop the theft of coins i is to be less lazy setting passphrases to accounts. That being said for large scale funds management i believe mass funds operators should utilize more secure custom creation, random keyboard character, of the block chain limit, passphrase. Thus the passphrase would need to be entered by means of copy paste from clipboard (too complex to remember) and stored in an encrypted archive on operators hidden away USB flash drive. windows xp clipboard has been compromised but not later editions from vista upwards IF your computer is loaded with anti spyware, phishing and virus. Using a small ram disk (a software hard drive using computer memory) file archive programs can be trained by configuration to unzip archives to it as temporary storage which is the standard way of unzipping a passphrase document securely because when the ram disk is removed or system rebooted the passphrase document is permanently deleted beyond recovery. at this site: http://www.grc.com anyone can check their pc's firewall effectiveness and other security aspects, generate truly random passwords (usable a passphrase when joined up together after generating a few) looking at accounts only on the official online website (not the AIO wallet) be sure to copy some random text to clipboard as soon as pasted on online wallet. The AIO wallet has script functions that can be easily manipulated remotely and if operators have huge coin amounts opportunistic criminals would already be druelling about it before anyone even sees it.
This information above in itself is for serious operator security beyond personal wallet purposes. (or for the paranoid)
Like the other Assets I am involved in, I'll be there for the long run. Market shares etc always go up and down and many people suffer economic fear. It is wise not to give into it where possible.
-
@ZapbuzZ That's just basic password security. I think you missed the point of this thread. The issue in question here isn't password security of the asset owner or shareholders, it's the ethics/management ability of the asset owner (is he doing/going to continue to do the best thing for the asset and it's shareholders, or scam).
And using random characters for your password (not just dictionary-based) is a good idea at all times, especially in crypto, not just for large-scale fund management.
-
@IncludeBeer Yes but there was conversation about security so i thought it was a good opportunity to have a type about.
-
Ok the total amount of Burst that was raised from sale of assets was 30,666,075 Burst
at hand there is 14,330,000 +/- (depending on asset values/bankroll variancys) between bankroll/bankroll reserve , BtcDragon Asset account, exchange and Assets held on the BTCDragon Asset Account.
The Burst that was exchanged to BTC, when started burst value was in the low 60 sats and BTC was at around $900 US, so I have used a mean of 75 sats per burst as most that were sold were between the low 60's and low 90's which raised 12.25 BTC .
1 BTC was spent on signature and twitter campaign
0.7 BTC was spent at mellow ads
1 BTC was spent at Anon Ads
0.1 BTC for signiture creations5 btc was converted to fiat, which it total equal $4875 USD (BTC was converted to fiat between $900 and just over $1050 USD and worked out at roughly $975 usd) and the last time i convert any to fiat was the 22nd of feburary , but was obviously converted to AUS$, of this $2676 USD was paid to Flash for his services, plus he did receive 2000 assets and also he was sent 35,000 Burst which i believe he did buy assets with.
$79 was spent on getting banners made and also twitter promotion on Fiverr
$140 on servers
$25 for banner advertising on Bitcoingarden forum
there is $1865 in the account for further payments to Flash,servers and that and possible further advertising.
The rest 3.15 BTC is spread in different place faucets, exchanges, MoneyPot and also on advertising platforms to be used for promotion
the rest is held in other currencys xmr, stratis and expanse as the start to building bankrolls for addition to the casino.
There were also other payments made for blog posts and other promotions.Now with all that said for sure people are going to pick it apart, I havent worked out the conversion rates for btc>aus$ then transfering it to paypal in australian dollars to convert to USD that i pay to Flash and then it shows it as euro on the paypal statement or on the particular day or Burst to BTC then other currency or what the exchange rate was at a particular time and so on and there are other costs bits and pieces here there and everywhere .
And yes I expect it to go straight to the HUB and certain people to spew there dribble, and someone asked me why i dont join there, as i stated from the start i have no interest in that site, not comfortable with there set up and other reason and elements there, and i know they will say this and that to what i said, but before this was started as in the asset as a whole i said that so by saying that now has nothing to do with whats happening now .
-
@RichBC said in [CAUTION] BTCDragon Asset:
Can you confirm to what degree profit from the casino has been able to fund the Dividend payments?
Kevin about 21 hours ago @Bitdv
@Bitdv Thank you, I now understand a little bit better this part. So you agree you haven't deposited to btcDragon to increase the earnings of the site? With your account or with another account?Bitdv about 21 hours ago @Kevin
@Kevin I have 1 account there , I havent added funds to the earnings and as I have stated yes i have tested and will continue to test games , for bugs or if they are pointed out to me and games that are in development and have gambled with my own funds !!!i thought was the answer but ill say it again NO i havent added to the APP/Casino earnings, yes when things are tested for bugs or anything or when i play with my own funds yes earnings are add from the house edge. And there is no way that this can be avoided as when bugs happen on the live site, they need to be tested , so that i can attempt to replicate the bug as close as possible to the same events , so i can look at logs and data to try and find the problem or for me to pass the info onto flash, so he can work it out, so it will be same game, bet amounts , whether it was a auto roll or whatever details the person forwarded to me and as for me playing , well what i play at . what level I play , thats up to me as I play with my money, have always played , havent tried to hide the fact I play , as im not playing against the casino, im actually playing against the MoneyPot bankroll, i using the casino like everyone else , they use the casino to play against the Moneypot Bankroll. and to me its relaxing , but i dont see a problem with it, if i had a hidden account and didnt have it were people can see what I do then yes , but i do it openly!!
-
@Bitdv said in [CAUTION] BTCDragon Asset:
Ok the total amount of Burst that was raised from sale of assets was 30,666,075 Burst
at hand there is 14,330,000 +/- (depending on asset values/bankroll variancys) between bankroll/bankroll reserve , BtcDragon Asset account, exchange and Assets held on the BTCDragon Asset Account.
The Burst that was exchanged to BTC, when started burst value was in the low 60 sats and BTC was at around $900 US, so I have used a mean of 75 sats per burst as most that were sold were between the low 60's and low 90's which raised 12.25 BTC .
1 BTC was spent on signature and twitter campaign
0.7 BTC was spent at mellow ads
1 BTC was spent at Anon Ads
0.1 BTC for signiture creations5 btc was converted to fiat, which it total equal $4875 USD (BTC was converted to fiat between $900 and just over $1050 USD and worked out at roughly $975 usd) and the last time i convert any to fiat was the 22nd of feburary , but was obviously converted to AUS$, of this $2676 USD was paid to Flash for his services, plus he did receive 2000 assets and also he was sent 35,000 Burst which i believe he did buy assets with.
$79 was spent on getting banners made and also twitter promotion on Fiverr
$140 on servers
$25 for banner advertising on Bitcoingarden forum
there is $1865 in the account for further payments to Flash,servers and that and possible further advertising.
The rest 3.15 BTC is spread in different place faucets, exchanges, MoneyPot and also on advertising platforms to be used for promotion
the rest is held in other currencys xmr, stratis and expanse as the start to building bankrolls for addition to the casino.
There were also other payments made for blog posts and other promotions.Now with all that said for sure people are going to pick it apart, I havent worked out the conversion rates for btc>aus$ then transfering it to paypal in australian dollars to convert to USD that i pay to Flash and then it shows it as euro on the paypal statement or on the particular day or Burst to BTC then other currency or what the exchange rate was at a particular time and so on and there are other costs bits and pieces here there and everywhere .
And yes I expect it to go straight to the HUB and certain people to spew there dribble, and someone asked me why i dont join there, as i stated from the start i have no interest in that site, not comfortable with there set up and other reason and elements there, and i know they will say this and that to what i said, but before this was started as in the asset as a whole i said that so by saying that now has nothing to do with whats happening now .Can you provide screenshots of your trades, mellow ads and anon ads deals? Can you also provide screenshots of your polo trade history and bittrex.
Thanks
-
@mathew The basic answer is no, Im not going to screenshot 25 pages of trades on poloniex, which also includes personal trades as i have one verified account there, the same with Bittrex or every single site i have done anything on, cause then it will just go on and on and on, next thing people will ask for more and more and more and im not going to sit here day in and day out providing every single little thing on a constant basis, like yesterday i woke at 5 am , then because I read the post but didnt reply within 10 minutes got grilled over that, sorry not sure how other people wake up but in the morning , need a coffee to kick shit off, then all day and i mean till 10 pm last night , after having to go to work and yes I work for myself, i own a construction business and have employees, my phone constantly beeping , answer people while dealing with work, kids family and then coming home last night to a whole heap of PM's questions and so forth, answering to the best of my ability, getting threats, being told that there is only one real casino in the Burst eco-system, being told that these people will do anything they can to destroy BTCDragon (and yes I do know where this is coming from), and a whole gamit of shit , while still trying to develop stuff and get stuff sorted!!
I dont have time every single day to provide every shred for everyone all the time, and yep getting really pissed off, seriously, with doing one thing , then asked to do something else, then something else, then again more , nah , Im nearly at the point were ill say fuck it!!, every one put there assets up ill buy them all back , obviously they wont all be bought back at once as funds have been used , but with the casino earnings they will be and be frikken done with it , ill run it myself, shut the burst side down, so at the end of the day the only loser will be me and those pathetic creatures can have there hollow win..



