pool.burstcoin.eu
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@haitch thank , but nevertheles if i have something i dont understand wil need your help , thank
you can deleted unrelated comments you dont like .
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Just saw this and was kinda shocked. 8S This type of behavior shouldn't happen on the forums, I'm not trying to parent anyone here but @jumbolin you shouldn't throw insults like that to anyone especially not the admins, and not just because their the ones that control your web wallet account and forums account but because they established a community that allows us to communicate and earn money. We still are a community and rely on common curtsy and decency. As for @haitch I do agree that behavior like this should be dealt with but ceasing control over all aspects of burst (Wallet, db Downloads, Pools) is a little intense as well as threatening others with action. Crypto is supposed to be decentralized for this exact reason, it's a little worrying that one person has this much control over the whole coin. I say this not to offend you but to knowledge that the db is only available through your sources to my knowledge, as well you run most of the pools and well the forums ban doesn't matter that much. My point is assholes with be assholes and removing their voice from the community is good enough for me, going to the extent that you cease their mining efforts and honest rewards is a bit too much. Think about it, governments have the power to do this but don't (at least in my country) besides Crypto accounts aren't supposed to be controlled thus the definition of decentralized.
Lastly, I do appreciate all efforts made on behalf of yourself but staying true to what this coin stands for is more important than showing some poor internet troll up.If you don't agree with anything stated above feel free to privately message me and I'll take it down personally. Else I hope you understand the message I am trying to communicate.
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@AngryChicken that made me realize, where can we download the db other than here? Pools, there's tross and others who isn't run by Ninja clones but the DB is something too centralized :\xD
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@jervis Exactly my point, pool's don't matter that much as he/she does't run all of them but the db download is only in one place. Unless their is some other way that isn't talked about.
All i'm trying to say is this was a authoritarian way of asserting the point by ceasing everything until @jumbolin came gobbling back on his/her knees.
Once again I by NO meaning promote what @jumbolin has said but the actions where severe and potentially damaging.
I for one have all my coins in a WebWallet and I'm sitting a little uneasy about what has happened.
In someway it's dictatorial.
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@AngryChicken I'm sorry if you disagree, but when someone calls me an "idiot", "fat dog" and "scammer", then I feel well within my rights not to provide the services I pay for to that person. I have thousands invested in the hardware these sites run on, and pay thousands a year to provide them to the community. If someone I've been trying to help is going to treat me with that much disrespect, I'll pull the plug on them.
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@AngryChicken The db download is only a helper - if you have the wallet then you can download the full blockchain from Block 0. The download I provide just gets you up to date faster - removing access to it doesn't cut anyone off from the blockchain.
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@haitch said in pool.burstcoin.eu:
@AngryChicken The db download is only a helper - if you have the wallet then you can download the full blockchain from Block 0. The download I provide just gets you up to date faster - removing access to it doesn't cut anyone off from the blockchain.
Then, there's the answer I was looking for. So, as long as we have the local wallets running @AngryChicken we'll be fine. :)
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@haitch Nope I agree fully, but I also think that you should allow someone to transfer funds into a local wallet before cutting off access to their web wallet. As for the Db download I am glad to hear that it's still available beyond the db helper, but the way you announced it didn't make it seem that way. Remember that's a very sensitive topic.
Once again I don't disagree but the execution of announcement could have been handled better than an impulse ban and a instant denial of service. As for the comments remember I do endorse a permanent ban after the user has setup alternatives.
I don't want to drag on a sensitive subject as it's damaging.
Also thank you once again for all the investment you have contributed to this project.
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@AngryChicken THe local and online wallets work bilaterally. So, what's in the online wallet is also in your local wallet, if your local is updated. no need to transfer funds.
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@AngryChicken Funds exist on the blockchain - not in the local or online wallet. Denying access to the online wallets denies them access to a service I provide, not their funds. If they install a local wallet all their funds are available. I just provide a service, I don't control anyone's funds, and certainly wouldn't deny them access to their own coins - even if I could. Burst was up and running for a couple of years before I setup my hosts, the services I provide just make it easier.
And it wasn't an impulse ban - I let my pool being called a scam go, I called it being a waste of time go, but being called an "idiot" and "fat dog" was more than just a little step over the line.
And it's not dragging on a sensitive subject - this is the Burst community, and I may have the power of a benevolent deity, I never laid down behavior rules as I didn't think it necessary, but behavior that far outside of what any in the community would deem acceptable - I'll act on them. If people think I'm being overly sensitive, or over-reacted then I'd like to hear those opinions. I wasn't kicking @jumbolin out of the coin, just denying him the services I provide, and all I asked for for access to those services to be restored was an apology for the insults, and an agreement to abide by the community norms.
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@haitch said in pool.burstcoin.eu:
I don't control anyone's funds, and certainly wouldn't deny them access to their own coins - even if I could.
You have the power to do that? Or this is just a figure of speech?
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@jervis The first part of that sentence: "I don't control anyone's funds" - Everyones coins are in the blockchain - no one can control someone else coins
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@jervis Alright, that's good well then I don't have any objections other than those things I originally listed. It's not up to me so long as nobody has been abused in anyway in result of being an ass.
Then if this is all @haitch has done and @jumbolin still had access to everything except haitch's servers that make things easier then he was within his rights and I'll support it.
Once again for somebody that is just started researching the back-end of Burstcoin or for people that don't know how it works the above postings sound very dictatorial and misleading in how intrusive haitch's ban movement was.
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@AngryChicken What I provide is a convenience, not core Burst functionality. Banning someone from my hosts does not affect their ability to mine Burst - it just removes the additional services I provide. Burst is totally de-centralized, no one can shutdown someones access to utilizing it.
I have paid about $10,000 for this site and the services I provide. I get to ban people who insult me so much over 1/3rd of a penny
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@haitch That's good, and how it should be sorry for commenting so strongly it's that wasn't the way it came across.
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@AngryChicken No problem - I should probably have taken a couple of deep breaths before I posted, but I was pissed. But what I said stands - people that won't observe basic community standards will be excluded from the parts of it I manage.
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@haitch Ps. The pool is down again. LOL

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@AngryChicken The pool show up here, and is processing submissions:
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submitNonce[171.115.132.126]: account=15893638459253455739, nonce=1245242805, deadline=84354
submitNonce[171.115.132.126]: OK [0s] - 23 hours, 25 mins, 54 secs
submitNonce[static.vnpt.vn]: account=5809294913592288337, nonce=1315966951, deadline=89344
submitNonce[static.vnpt.vn]: OK [0s] - 1 day, 49 mins, 4 secs
submitNonce[dpost-016.dominionpost.com]: account=14060693410473484697, nonce=18446744072033648463, deadline=2245529
account 14060693410473484697, block 299997 best deadline was 2319001 now 2245529, having waited for 0s
submitNonce[dpost-016.dominionpost.com]: OK [0s] - 25 days, 23 hours, 45 mins, 29 secs
submitNonce[static.vnpt.vn]: account=5809294913592288337, nonce=4715869825, deadline=31599
submitNonce[static.vnpt.vn]: OK [0s] - 8 hours, 46 mins, 39 secs
submitNonce[cpe-76-92-66-63.ma.res.rr.com]: account=1129370244702290398, nonce=1001962141, deadline=80011
account 1129370244702290398, block 299997 best deadline was 542789 now 80011, having waited for 0s
submitNonce[cpe-76-92-66-63.ma.res.rr.com]: OK [0s] - 22 hours, 13 mins, 31 secs
submitNonce[ip68-2-157-88.ph.ph.cox.net]: account=7660399333592234132, nonce=1114627782, deadline=10424
account 7660399333592234132, block 299997 best deadline was 10648 now 10424, having waited for 0s
submitNonce[ip68-2-157-88.ph.ph.cox.net]: OK [0s] - 2 hours, 53 mins, 44 secs
submitNonce[S010650395553e3e9.cc.shawcable.net]: account=13064487346267812522, nonce=1113907324, deadline=148081
account 13064487346267812522, block 299997 best deadline was 1077862 now 148081, having waited for 0s
submitNonce[S010650395553e3e9.cc.shawcable.net]: OK [0s] - 1 day, 17 hours, 8 mins
submitNonce[82.212.89.103]: account=18392857583874046757, nonce=18446744072022341916, deadline=1962267
account 18392857583874046757, block 299997 best deadline was 3345399 now 1962267, having waited for 0s
submitNonce[82.212.89.103]: OK [1s] - 22 days, 17 hours, 4 mins, 27 secs
submitNonce[HSI-KBW-085-216-043-044.hsi.kabelbw.de]: account=9381418360640523899, nonce=413907176, deadline=420597
account 9381418360640523899, block 299997 best deadline was 892612 now 420597, having waited for 0s
submitNonce[HSI-KBW-085-216-043-044.hsi.kabelbw.de]: OK [1s] - 4 days, 20 hours, 49 mins, 57 secs
submitNonce[cpe-173-88-31-147.columbus.res.rr.com]: account=9153913658432072620, nonce=415045962, deadline=309099
account 9153913658432072620, block 299997 best deadline was 904335 now 309099, having waited for 0s
submitNonce[82-135-154-253.static.zebra.lt]: account=10236404597579601766, nonce=641357778, deadline=13350
submitNonce[cpe-173-88-31-147.columbus.res.rr.com]: OK [0s] - 3 days, 13 hours, 51 mins, 39 secs
....I can only assume some internet issue is screwing up connections to the pool. The host is showing 2% working, the host it's on < 10%
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@haitch Very interesting, Ok as long as my submissions are being confirmed pool side I don;t care about confirmations client side.
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Don't mean to intrude however @haitch remember my past pool issues with people getting error connection 10060
and my pool software would return web-socket errors and disconnect errors. Come to find out I had 2 routers get their firmware corrupted. The last router died and since then no more issues. The next time this happens I know it's a router. Also these fore father's really have done a lot for and we should be grateful.



